[Internal-cg] DRAFT message from the ICG Chairs to the CCWGChairs

Subrenat, Jean-Jacques jjs at dyalog.net
Sat Oct 24 13:47:37 UTC 2015


Colleagues,

I am opposed to any further addition or deletion of the texts we agreed during our final meeting this week. We only agreed that some grammatical or stylistic improvements could be brought, if truly necessary.

I kindly request our Chairs to make the ICG abide by the conclusions we reached in Dublin. Thank you.

Best regards,
Jean-Jacques.


 

----- Mail original -----
De: "Keith Drazek" <kdrazek at verisign.com>
À: "Milton L Mueller" <milton at gatech.edu>
Cc: "ICG Group" <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Envoyé: Vendredi 23 Octobre 2015 21:15:39
Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] DRAFT message from the ICG Chairs to	the	CCWGChairs

Agreed. Or pull in the previously submitted language from the IAB's 2 public comment submissions.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
> 
> Wolf-Ulrich is correct, giving the CCWG an open-ended letter that says "something is wrong" won't be perceived as actionable. 
> 
> I would suggest replacing this text " We have no interest in telling ICANN what belongs in the mission statement, but..." with something along the lines of "We think that there is the potential for incompatibilities or conflicts between the mission statement as it now stands and later efforts by the protocols or numbers communities to revise their IFO arrangements."
> 
> Perhaps the IAB could prepare a memo about what they think needs to be changed and it could accompany our letter.
> 
> --MM
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WUKnoben [mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de]
>> 
>> Mission and core values revisions were already part of the 2nd CCWG draft
>> (see 159 ff) and changes are suggested.
>> In addition "Development and approval of all necessary changes to ICANN by-
>> laws" are items listed under "Implementation" (V) of the proposal to be
>> completed.
>> 
>> For me this letter doesn't make sense unless we specify outstanding items
>> either in terms of content or timing.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Wolf-Ulrich
>> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> From: Russ Housley
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:23 PM
>> To: Mueller, Milton L
>> Cc: ICG Group
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] DRAFT message from the ICG Chairs to the
>> CCWGChairs
>> 
>> Milton:
>> 
>> I thought about that, but I was reacting to the point made by Keith that the
>> real drafting of bylaws has not really begun yet.  So, at this stage, the right
>> thing to do seems to be coordination.
>> 
>> Russ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wouldn't it be better to specifically identify what parts of the
>>> mission statement are incorrect, or even to suggest ways to fix them?
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Russ Housley
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 11:38 AM
>>>> To: ICG Group <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
>>>> Subject: [Internal-cg] DRAFT message from the ICG Chairs to the CCWG
>>>> Chairs
>>>> 
>>>> Please review this draft text for the message from the ICG Chairs to
>>>> the CCWG
>>>> chairs:
>>>> 
>>>> Russ
>>>> 
>>>> = = = = = = = =
>>>> 
>>>> Dear CCWG Chairs,
>>>> 
>>>> During our discussions in Dublin, the ICG recognized that the mission
>>>> statement in the ICANN Bylaws will be out of date as the
>>>> CWG-Stewardship and CCWG-Accountability proposals are implemented.
>>>> This is especially important since the mission statement is intended
>>>> to become a fundamental bylaw.  We have no interest in telling ICANN
>>>> what belongs in the mission statement, but we do believe that the
>>>> mission statement must accurately reflect the ICANN organizational
>>>> scope and structure.  The ICG asks the CCWG make the ICANN mission
>>>> statement current and accurate before it becomes a fundamental bylaw.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>>> ICG Chairs
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>> 
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