[Internal-cg] Continuing / Re-Chartering Thoughts

[joseph alhadeff]

My only concern about this process is that if only a couple of 
communities go through this informal process does that create a valid 
basis for us to move forward with an implementation role?  A number of 
us had concerns with ANY unilateral bootstrapping of an extended mandate...

On 10/20/2015 8:15 AM, Lynn St.Amour wrote:
> I also support this way forward.
>
> Lynn
>
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:33 PM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs at dyalog.net> wrote:
>
>> Alissa,
>>
>> initially I supported the idea of sending a single message to all the communities we represent. But your suggestion has the advantage of keeping things informal, the equivalent of our "getting the temperature of the room". I would therefore support it.
>>
>> If your proposal was not accepted by a majority of colleagues, I would then insist that there be a single message to all our communities.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Jean-Jacques.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in>
>> À: "Daniel Karrenberg" <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net>
>> Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org
>> Envoyé: Lundi 19 Octobre 2015 17:23:14
>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Continuing / Re-Chartering Thoughts
>>
>> I don’t see a need to craft a specific question and send that question to each community. We were each sent to the ICG from a particular community. Those who think their communities have an interest in this could go consult with our communities, we could set a deadline, and then have a conversation about it after the deadline. This is my basic understanding of what ISOC has done — their position was reflected in their public comments and Narelle has been putting it forth to us.
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I did not hear universal support for actively reaching out. I heard some
>>> people say explicitly that the initiative should not come from us. I for
>>> one find such outreach rather pathetic and weakening our credibility. If
>>> I am the really only one then fine. So if noone else speaks up I will
>>> drop that particular point.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On 19.10.15 10:30 , joseph alhadeff wrote:
>>>> Daniel:
>>>>
>>>> I think the concept was that we could reach out to see if an
>>>> implementation role for us was needed, with Jean-Jacques suggesting it
>>>> needed to be a canvass of all communities, not just OCs.   I concur that
>>>> the validation of implementation work had to be external, not
>>>> self-determined.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On 10/18/2015 9:22 AM, Daniel Karrenberg wrote:
>>>>> On 18.10.15 14:50 , Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote:
>>>>>> ... in this morning's discussion I felt there was a majority view in
>>>>>> favour of reaching out to our communities. ...
>>>>> It did not feel like that to me. I heard quite a few people say that the
>>>>> initiative would have to come from outside. I listened quite carefully
>>>>> even though I admit to be handicapped by not being in the room.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
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