[Internal-cg] Enquire if CWG(-Stewardship) Would Agree thatwe Submit

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I fully agree with Martin.

The only thing we could ask from the CWG is about the status of their 
dependencies, whether they think these are fulfilled and the proposal ready 
to go. Anything else would be surprising to everybody.

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: Martin Boyle
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:42 PM
To: Daniel Karrenberg ; IANA etc etcCoordination Group
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Enquire if CWG(-Stewardship) Would Agree thatwe 
Submit

As I noted, the CWG proposal is fully dependent on the CCWG work, and that 
is noted at least by the ccNSO in their acceptance of the CWG proposal.  I 
cannot imagine that the ccNSO would change its view or allow the decision on 
completeness to be made by the ICANN Board.  I am worried that a request as 
you identify it, Daniel, would not help our credibility as impartial 
Coordination Group, without conferring any advantage in the process.

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Karrenberg
Sent: 13 January 2016 21:28
To: IANA etc etc Coordination Group <Internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject: [Internal-cg] Enquire if CWG(-Stewardship) Would Agree that we 
Submit


During our call I reflected on Jean-Jaques' question whether we should 
(consider to) submit our work product to the ICANN board for transmission to 
NTIA.

After more reflection I think we should ask our chairs to make an inquiry 
with the CWG chairs if it would be OK with CWG if we did submit.

Reasons:

First and foremost such a step would project an element of progress of the 
transition process. From a distance this whole process appears to be bogged 
down because the Internet community cannot agree.  If ICG submits we can 
project that the operational communities in fact agree on a substantial part 
of the *IANA* transition. This whole process may well die from the 
perception of stagnation and complications. Let us create the perception of 
partial agreement and success.

Secondly if we submit we increase the barrier for re-opening the discussion 
about our work product.

I am not at all worried that we would give ICANN additional discretion by 
submitting before CCWG does. But we would give them some extra time to 
formally consider our proposal. And that is a third good reason to not just 
sit and wait.

So I consider it worthwhile to just check whether CWG would consider to 
release us from our obligation to wait for their OK. In case they agree we 
can still discuss what we want to do. If they don't the question moot until 
the situation changes again.

Daniel


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