[Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Mon Sep 14 15:53:07 UTC 2015

I will available to join at any time from 12.50 since my flight is arriving early in the morning. Wolf kindly confirm meeting point.  Will be in the hotel on time.

Mary

     On Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:51 PM, Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org> wrote:

 Wolf-Ulrich,
You are certainly welcome to visit the office at 4pm if that is convenient.   My plan had been to depart from the ICANN offices at 4pm to avoid the traffic between Playa Visita and the ICG meeting location; however, I will be happy to revise that plan in order greet you at 4pm at the office. 
Best regards,-- Elise 

From:  "Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de" <Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de>
Date:  Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 12:25 PM
To:  Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>
Cc:  "kuoweiwu at gmail.com" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in>, "internal-cg at ianacg.org" <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject:  Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Thanks for your kind offer, Elise.I'd do my very best to be at your office that time you're suggesting. But this lies in the hands of the airline as well as the immigration procedure. My flight is scheduled to arrive LAX at 12:50, and I have real doubts that I can make it.However, wouldn't there be still a chance to meet at around 4 pm after your meeting with Becky and Keith?
So far Milton would also join.
RegardsWolf-Ulrich

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Am 10.09.2015 um 12:42 schrieb Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>:

Dear Wolf-Ulrich,
You and other members are always welcome to stop by the ICANN office in Playa Vista, California.  However, I am not sure what “hardware” you are hoping to see.  All the hardware security modules, servers, and routers are located in a colocation facility that is independent from the ICANN office.  We carry on our primary operations in a very normal office building.  
>From 2:30 – 4:00 pm our staff is committed to a meeting with Keith Davidson and Becky Burr to discuss the Framework of Interpretation topic.  If you and our other ICG colleagues would like to come to the office at 1:30pm, I would be able to show you our office space and introduce to those individuals who will be in the office that day in advance of the meeting about the FOI.  
Please let us know your plans when you have finalized them.
Best regards,-- Elise 

From: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 4:57 PM
To: Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>, "kuoweiwu at gmail.com" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in>
Cc: "internal-cg at ianacg.org" <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Hi Elise, sorry for the late reaction to your kind message. I’m still interested to visit the IANA office on 17 September at the occasion of the ICG meeting next week. Main interest is to see the IANA staff working environment in order to get an impression which “hardware” we’re talking about besides the complex context thereof. In addition, a little exchange with you and your colleages available would be appreciated. Some ICG colleagues showed interest to join (Hartmuth, Martin, Joe, Mary, maybe Kuo-Wei Wu) depending on their flight schedule. So we should be a small team somewhat between 1 and 5. I guess around 1 hour would be enough time . I’d like to ask you not to initiate a big effort around the visit. Perhaps it could be arranged later in the afternoon that we can move thereafter to the reception planned at the hotel (time?).

Thanks and regards

Wolf-Ulrich

 From: Elise Gerich Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:16 PMTo: WUKnoben ; kuoweiwu at gmail.com ;Alissa Cooper Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments Dear Wolf-Ulrich and all of you have expressed an interest, You are certainly welcome to visit the office in Playa Vista, California on Thursday Sept 17th.  Other than seeing where we work and introductions to individuals in the department, it is unclear whether that is worth the trip to our office.  The hotel where the ICG meeting will take place is about 30 minutes by car from our office (that is what Google maps indicates). Also, Keith Davidson has already planned a working meeting with us to discuss the ccNSO FOI for Thursday afternoon, and we would have to coordinate the visit to not conflict with this previously scheduled meeting.  Do let me know if you are still interested in visiting the ICANN office in Playa Vista, and we will work to find a time that is mutually convenient. See you all at the ICG meeting in Los Angeles in September,-- Elise   From: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 5:15 PM
To: Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>, "kuoweiwu at gmail.com" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in>
Cc: "internal-cg at ianacg.org" <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Dear Elise, all, as my travel for the ICG September meeting in LA has now been arranged thanks to ICANN travel department I’m thinking how to make best use of the time available. My wish is to grab the chance and visit the IANA department – in an individual capacity.My arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in the afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in a non-official way I'd really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues are interested and find time to join.
Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich
 From: Elise Gerich Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AMTo: WUKnoben ; kuoweiwu at gmail.com ;Alissa Cooper Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments Wolf-Ulrich,We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are curious as to what the final impact will be on our current operational structure and the interdependencies of the functions.-- Elise   From: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM
To: "kuoweiwu at gmail.com" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in>
Cc: "internal-cg at ianacg.org" <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Kuo-Wei, I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger several timesin various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in BA - in order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA organisation. They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence which is crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of the system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.Career plan of staff is one element between others.I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise as staff liaison could gide us. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Wu Kuo-WeiSent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PMTo: Alissa CooperCc: ICG Coordination GroupSubject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don’t agree the liaison’s position proper to say anything, you can drop my comment. 
Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> 於 2015年7月8日 06:35 寫道： Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I wrote down a few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8. Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and Martin) point out that there are areas where more detail will be developed as part of implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget, etc.). It would be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for our reference. Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting material)?
 It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try to separatethe policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get some input from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as the long termstability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working well for thecareer development for IANA people in the long run. At the current status, IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better career plan, and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need to learn IANA people, not just treat them as “box”. We decide their future, but ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list other than SLA, budget,..). Again, if you don’t agree the liaison position proper to say, please drop mycomment. Thanks. Kuo Wu 
 Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal cannot be considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the CCWG. My question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward with public comment and proposal finalization while we await the output of the CCWG? My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check. Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone Maintainer’s relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion of that. I note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its approval of the proposal. Again I don’t think this is necessarily blocking on our work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek clarification. Alissa   _______________________________________________Internal-cg mailing listInternal-cg at mm.ianacg.orghttp://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org
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