[Internal-cg] transition proposal v5

Thu Oct 22 07:11:22 UTC 2015

Alissa,
Thanks for pointing out the confirmations from the other two communities.
Given those confirmations, is there a reason that this is stated as a
requirement of the three proposals in the Executive Summary instead of
brought up in the ³Compatibility and interoperability² section with some
language such as has been drafted to describe the compatibility of the IPR
issue which was also proposed explicitly by a single Operational Community?

Thanks,
-- Elise 

From:  Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in>
Date:  Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 7:16 AM
To:  Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>
Cc:  Russ Mundy <mundy at tislabs.com>, "internal-cg at ianacg.org"
<internal-cg at ianacg.org>
Subject:  Re: [Internal-cg] transition proposal v5

> Hi Elise,
> 
> We have had multiple confirmations from the other two communities that this
> approach is acceptable to them, in the public comments and elsewhere. It isn¹t
> documented in the OC proposals because they were submitted before the PTI
> concept was invented.
> 
> Alissa
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org> wrote:
>> 
>> In paragraph X009 the version of the executive summary in Russ¹ email states:
>> 
>>> ³Under the combined transition proposal the administrative staff and related
>>> resources, processes, data, and know-how associated with all of the IANA
>>> functions currently covered by the NTIA contract would be legally
>>> transferred to PTI.  ICANN would contract with the PTI for the performance
>>> of the naming functions."
>> 
>> Did I miss something in the protocol parameters¹ and numbers¹ communities
>> proposals?  From my reading of their proposals as well as the summary in
>> paragraphs X007 and X008, neither of those communities proposed that the
>> administrative staff, etc. would be legally transferred to PTI.  I agree this
>> is a pragmatic implementation approach, it is  just that I do not see that
>> approach documented in the numbers and protocol parameters proposals.
>> 
>> Is this an ICG interpretation of what should happen rather than what is
>> specified in the two individual proposals?
>> 
>> -- Elise 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Internal-cg <internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org> on behalf of Russ Mundy
>> <mundy at tislabs.com>
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 1:26 AM
>> To: "internal-cg at ianacg.org" <internal-cg at ianacg.org>
>> Cc: Russ Mundy <mundy at tislabs.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] transition proposal v5
>> 
>>> I¹ve also carefully read the executive summary and the (relatively) new
>>> History of IANA section (para¹s 02-06).
>>> 
>>> I like the changes Daniel suggestions to the exec summary and don¹t have any
>>> further changes to suggest.
>>> 
>>> In the History section, I¹ve made several readability changes in paragraphs
>>> 04 & 05 that I think make them clearer. If others disagree with the changes,
>>> I¹m not wedded to these words so they can be further improved or reverted if
>>> the group would prefers.
>>> 
>>> I did spot one small factual error in the History section that I think I¹ve
>>> corrected, i.e., the contract that was awarded in 2000 is not the one being
>>> replaced by this transition, rather, it is the contract that was awarded 2
>>> Jul 2012 - I think that adding ³a subsequent² to line 9 of 04 corrects the
>>> error.
>>> 
>>> I¹ve placed a version titled:
>>> IANA-transition-proposal-v5-karrenberg-mundy.docx in Dropbox.
>>> 
>>> RussM
>>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Signed PGP part
>>>> I have read the executive summary carefully and suggest two minor
>>>> edits dropping text. If they are not easily agreed, drop them and move o
>>>> n.
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/home/CoordinationGroup/Combined%20Proposal?previ
>>>> ew=IANA-transition-proposal-v5-karrenberg.docx
>>>> I also suggest a *major* edit to the final paragraphs, the "ICG
>>>> Recommendations." This is the most important part of the executive
>>>> summary and need to be a strong and clear statement. I believe we
>>>> deserve better than we have now and suggest we say just this:
>>>> X031 The ICG unanimously supports this proposal and recommends to all
>>>> parties to implement it.
>>>> X032 The ICG will transmit this proposal to the ICANN board for
>>>> submission to NTIA as soon as the CWG has confirmed that its
>>>> requirements regarding ICANN accountability have been met..
>>>> Daniel
>>>> On 20.10.15 23:28 , Patrik Fältström wrote:
>>>>> > I walked through the History Section to clean up the language a
>>>>> > bit.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The -v5 now has red-line that marks my changes.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > paf
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 20 Oct 2015, at 17:07, Alissa Cooper wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Updated proposal attached. Dropbox:
>>>>>> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjchlea1b0ammd0/IANA-transition-proposal-v5
>>>> .docx?dl=0
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjchlea1b0ammd0/IANA-transition-proposal-v
>>>> 5.docx?dl=0>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>> Edits made:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> - Deleted mentions of public comments from exec summary (except
>>>>>> >> the two people wanted to retain) - Edited and aligned all
>>>>>> >> references to CCWG dependency (per email thread started by
>>>>>> >> Daniel) - Added history section starting with paragraph 02 (per
>>>>>> >> Patrik) - Updated Figure 4 pie chart to reflect correct
>>>>>> >> statistics (per Lynn) - Edited implementation bullet item
>>>>>> >> related to issue resolution mechanisms (per Martin)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Alissa
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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