[Internal-cg] Q&As also for engagement session

Daniel Karrenberg daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net
Mon Oct 19 07:11:43 UTC 2015



Jean-Jaques, Joe,

what you say is in line with what I said and thus I believe we are in
agreement. Just to be absolutely sure: I agree that the initiative could
only come from NTIA after submission but I expect that we would use the
process we used before to do that and which involves the OCs.

For completeness let me say that in case ICANN attaches comments to our
proposal when transmitting it to NTIA we might consider reacting to
that. I hope that our liaison mechanism will allow us to foresee such
comments and possibly address them before submission.

Daniel


On 19.10.15 8:36 , Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote:
> Daniel, Joseph & All,
> 
> my position is well reflected in Joseph's latest remark, below. 
> 
> Daniel, while agreeing that we may be required to MODIFY the Transition Plan after having sent it to NTIA, I would repeat, like Joseph, that such tasking would/can only come from NTIA, not from our communities.
> 
> The possibility of a continuation of ICG is a separate issue, for which I recommend that we consult our communities (ALL our communities, not just the OCs).
> 
> Jean-Jacques.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Joseph Alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com>
> À: "Daniel Karrenberg" <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net>
> Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs at dyalog.net>, "IANA etc etc Coordination Group" <Internal-cg at ianacg.org>
> Envoyé: Lundi 19 Octobre 2015 06:41:59
> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Q&As also for engagement session
> 
> I understand our role to exist until the acceptance of the proposal not just its submission.  But in that time only NTIA would be in a position of sending it back to us for specific work...   Any other scenario does not serve the collective interests of the stakeholders who sent us here.... Agree with Jean-Jacques that I hope not to find out...
> 
> Joe
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 18.10.15 17:01 , Subrenat, Jean-Jacques wrote:
>>>
>>> Are we really prepared -and more importantly, does our mandate allow/require us- to CHANGE the Transition Plan AFTER we have sent it to the NTIA?
>>
>> Jean-Jaques,
>>
>> There is a scenario where NTIA might suggest changes to us and via us to
>> the OCs. If the OCs react to that and make changes to their input to us
>> I consider it to be within our current mandate and charter to apply the
>> same process we have used thus far to produce a revised proposal. In my
>> mind this is very much more clearly in our mandate than playing a role
>> in implementation. In fact I see little alternatives to using the ICG
>> process to make any such revisions should they be required.
>>
>> I consider this an unlikely, yet possible scenario. I hope very much
>> that this scenario will not occur.
>>
>> Hence I have not adapted the language. If this remains an issue I would
>> welcome alternative words.
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>> Jean-Jacques.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>> De: "Daniel Karrenberg" <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net>
>>> À: "IANA etc etc Coordination Group" <Internal-cg at ianacg.org>
>>> Envoyé: Dimanche 18 Octobre 2015 12:56:28
>>> Objet: [Internal-cg] Q&As also for engagement session
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are a few suggestions for Q&As as requested by Alissa. They seem
>>> straightforward to me and useful for tomorrow. Could we hear support?
>>>
>>>
>>> Q: When will the ICG proposal be ready?
>>>
>>> A: We expect publish our final draft of the proposal in the coming few
>>> weeks. We will then seek confirmation from the CWG that their
>>> requirements regarding ICANN accountability have been met by the
>>> parallel accountability process (CCWG). In the meantime anyone can use
>>> the final draft in preparing for the time when we will submit it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Q: What is the status of the final draft of the proposal.
>>>
>>> A: It is the result of the ICG process as far as ICG is concerned. ICG
>>> does not plan to make any revisions out of its own accord.
>>>
>>>
>>> Q: When will ICG submit the proposal to NTIA?
>>>
>>> A: We will communicate the proposal to the ICANN board for transmission
>>> to NTIA as soon as we have confirmation from the CWG that their
>>> requirements regarding ICANN accountability have been met. As to when
>>> exactly this will be, please ask the CWG.
>>>
>>>
>>> Q: What will the ICG do between now and the end of the transition?
>>>
>>> A: We expect publish our final draft of the proposal in the next few
>>> weeks. We will seek confirmation from the CWG that their requirements
>>> regarding ICANN accountability have been met by the parallel
>>> accountability process (CCWG). Once we have that confirmation we will
>>> submit the proposal and be available for some time to answer possible
>>> queries about the proposal. This would complete our mandate.
>>>
>>> We have no plans to do anything else. If there were widely supported
>>> requests to extend our mandate and charter we would of course discuss
>>> them. If there were any requests from the OCs to change the proposal we
>>> would be available to coordinate this as we have done until now.
>>>
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