[Internal-cg] Stitching things together

[Milton L Mueller]

We are in a position to assess whether consensus is falsely claimed. 
--MM

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> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of
> joseph alhadeff
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:15 AM
> To: internal-cg at ianacg.org
> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Stitching things together
> 
> Narelle:
> 
> I'm not sure we were meant to be determine the "truthfulness" of the
> community proposals, as much as assuring a workable compatability across
> all the proposals and assuring that they properly completed all elements of
> our RFP in a manner that was sufficient to address our best understanding of
> what was being requested in the NTIA conditions.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On 6/4/2015 12:32 AM, Narelle Clark wrote:
> > And in violent agreement, can I suggest that perhaps our value could be in
> validating some of the process claims made?
> >
> > Ie documenting what was done, and the evidence the supporting systems
> exist.
> >
> >
> > Narelle
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of
> Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 June 2015 5:07 PM
> > To: Jari Arkko
> > Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org
> > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Stitching things together
> >
> > Dear Jari,
> >
> > you're so right, "appearing to "add value" is not a goal in itself". The aim is
> not to be "appearing" anything, but to effectively add value. While
> scrupulously respecting our remit, hopefully the value of our work will be
> more than just the sum of its parts. Otherwise, why bother?
> >
> > I'm looking forward to being part of our team work for that, whether in a
> Preamble, Preface or Conclusions.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jean-Jacques.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > De: "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko at piuha.net>
> > À: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu>, "Jean-Jacques Subrenat"
> <jjs at dyalog.net>
> > Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org
> > Envoyé: Mercredi 3 Juin 2015 06:58:15
> > Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Stitching things together
> >
> >
> >> Fundamentally, we are an intermediary between the involved global
> Internet community, the separate operational communities, NTIA and
> ICANN. As an intermediary, we have a review, approval and clearinghouse
> function but not a proposal development function.
> >>
> >> We review the documents for consistency with the requirements and for
> compatibility before we "stitch them together." If there are compatibility
> problems or questions about conformity to the requirements we take the
> lead in resolving them.
> >>
> >> In our final proposal, we _should_ draft an overview or preamble which
> makes a coherent  presentation of the overall outcome. This will be
> important because it will "frame" the final proposal as a complete package.
> >>
> >> Last but not least, we will be responsible for interpreting the final stage
> of public comments, and for determining whether modifications are
> required.
> >>
> >> We will have plenty to do.
> > What Milton said.
> >
> > And we need to do what we need to do, appearing to “add value” is not a
> goal by itself. In fact, organisations that unnecessarily try to add value scare
> me :-) Our value is in coordination and ensuring that others get going and
> that things fit together. I think we’re doing pretty well there.
> >
> > Also, for what it is worth, I much prefer an output document that has a
> substantive preamble but the three component proposals are kept in
> separate sections and not mixed. We will btw need effort to develop that
> preamble…
> >
> > The rationale for the above is that the proposals are in different spaces
> and indeed have different internals, even if they structurally are different
> and they fit together. I think the end result is much more readable if the
> three components are kept on their own rather than mixed. But yes, a
> preface/preamble is needed.
> >
> > Jari
> >
> >
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