[Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Wed Jul 22 15:57:11 UTC 2015

That is a good idea: if it happens, I’d like to join.  Unfortunately I do not arrive in LA until well into the evening on 17 September, so it probably is not practical for me.

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Sent: 22 July 2015 16:16
To: Elise Gerich; kuoweiwu at gmail.com; Alissa Cooper
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Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Dear Elise, all,

as my travel for the ICG September meeting in LA has now been arranged thanks to ICANN travel department I’m thinking how to make best use of the time available. My wish is to grab the chance and visit the IANA department – in an individual capacity.
My arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in the afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in a non-official way I'd really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues are interested and find time to join.
Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich

From: Elise Gerich<mailto:elise.gerich at icann.org>
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Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Wolf-Ulrich,
We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are curious as to what the final impact will be on our current operational structure and the interdependencies of the functions.
-- Elise

From: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de<mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
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Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM
To: "kuoweiwu at gmail.com<mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com<mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>>, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in<mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
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Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

Kuo-Wei,

I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger several times
in various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in BA - in
order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA organisation.
They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence which is
crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of the
system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.
Career plan of staff is one element between others.
I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise as staff
liaison could gide us.

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich

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From: Wu Kuo-Wei
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM
To: Alissa Cooper
Cc: ICG Coordination Group
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don’t agree the
liaison’s position proper to say anything, you can drop my comment.

Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in<mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>> 於 2015年7月8日 06:35 寫道：

Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I wrote down a
few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8.

Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and Martin) point
out that there are areas where more detail will be developed as part of
implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget, etc.). It would
be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for our reference.
Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting material)?

It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try to separate
the policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get some input
from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as the long term
stability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working well for the
career development for IANA people in the long run. At the current status,
IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better career plan,
and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need to learn
IANA people, not just treat them as “box”. We decide their future, but
ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list other than
SLA, budget,..).

Again, if you don’t agree the liaison position proper to say, please drop my
comment.

Thanks.

Kuo Wu

Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal cannot be
considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the CCWG. My
question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward with public
comment and proposal finalization while we await the output of the CCWG?
My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check.

Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone Maintainer’s
relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion of that. I
note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its approval of
the proposal. Again I don’t think this is necessarily blocking on our
work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek clarification.

Alissa

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