[Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments

joseph alhadeff joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Wed Jul 22 15:51:13 UTC 2015


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On 7/22/2015 11:44 AM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:
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> +1 => I like to join
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> On 7/22/15 12:15 PM, WUKnoben wrote:
>> Dear Elise, all,
>> as my travel for the ICG September meeting in LA has now been 
>> arranged thanks to ICANN travel department I’m thinking how to make 
>> best use of the time available. My wish is to grab the chance and 
>> visit the IANA department – in an individual capacity.
>> My arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in 
>> the afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in a 
>> non-official way I'd really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues 
>> are interested and find time to join.
>> Best regards
>>
>> Wolf-Ulrich
>> *From:* Elise Gerich <mailto:elise.gerich at icann.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AM
>> *To:* WUKnoben <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> ; 
>> kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com> ; Alissa Cooper 
>> <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>
>> *Cc:* internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
>> Wolf-Ulrich,
>> We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are 
>> curious as to what the final impact will be on our current 
>> operational structure and the interdependencies of the functions.
>> -- Elise
>> From: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de 
>> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
>> Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de 
>> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
>> Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM
>> To: "kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>" 
>> <kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>>, Alissa Cooper 
>> <alissa at cooperw.in <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
>> Cc: "internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>" 
>> <internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
>>
>>     Kuo-Wei,
>>     I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger
>>     several times
>>     in various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in
>>     BA - in
>>     order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA
>>     organisation.
>>     They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence
>>     which is
>>     crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of
>>     the
>>     system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.
>>     Career plan of staff is one element between others.
>>     I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise
>>     as staff
>>     liaison could gide us.
>>     Best regards
>>     Wolf-Ulrich
>>     -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>     From: Wu Kuo-Wei
>>     Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM
>>     To: Alissa Cooper
>>     Cc: ICG Coordination Group
>>     Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
>>     If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don’t
>>     agree the
>>     liaison’s position proper to say anything, you can drop my comment.
>>
>>         Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
>>         於 2015年7月8日 06:35 寫道:
>>         Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I
>>         wrote down a
>>         few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8.
>>         Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and
>>         Martin) point
>>         out that there are areas where more detail will be developed
>>         as part of
>>         implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget,
>>         etc.). It would
>>         be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for
>>         our reference.
>>         Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting material)?
>>
>>     It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try
>>     to separate
>>     the policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get
>>     some input
>>     from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as
>>     the long term
>>     stability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working
>>     well for the
>>     career development for IANA people in the long run. At the
>>     current status,
>>     IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better
>>     career plan,
>>     and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need
>>     to learn
>>     IANA people, not just treat them as “box”. We decide their
>>     future, but
>>     ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list
>>     other than
>>     SLA, budget,..).
>>     Again, if you don’t agree the liaison position proper to say,
>>     please drop my
>>     comment.
>>     Thanks.
>>     Kuo Wu
>>
>>         Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal
>>         cannot be
>>         considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the
>>         CCWG. My
>>         question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward
>>         with public
>>         comment and proposal finalization while we await the output
>>         of the CCWG?
>>         My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check.
>>         Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone
>>         Maintainer’s
>>         relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion
>>         of that. I
>>         note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its
>>         approval of
>>         the proposal. Again I don’t think this is necessarily
>>         blocking on our
>>         work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek
>>         clarification.
>>         Alissa
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