[Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
joseph alhadeff
joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Wed Jul 22 15:51:13 UTC 2015
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On 7/22/2015 11:44 AM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:
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> +1 => I like to join
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> On 7/22/15 12:15 PM, WUKnoben wrote:
>> Dear Elise, all,
>> as my travel for the ICG September meeting in LA has now been
>> arranged thanks to ICANN travel department I’m thinking how to make
>> best use of the time available. My wish is to grab the chance and
>> visit the IANA department – in an individual capacity.
>> My arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in
>> the afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in a
>> non-official way I'd really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues
>> are interested and find time to join.
>> Best regards
>>
>> Wolf-Ulrich
>> *From:* Elise Gerich <mailto:elise.gerich at icann.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AM
>> *To:* WUKnoben <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> ;
>> kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com> ; Alissa Cooper
>> <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>
>> *Cc:* internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
>> Wolf-Ulrich,
>> We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are
>> curious as to what the final impact will be on our current
>> operational structure and the interdependencies of the functions.
>> -- Elise
>> From: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
>> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
>> Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
>> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
>> Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM
>> To: "kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>"
>> <kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>>, Alissa Cooper
>> <alissa at cooperw.in <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
>> Cc: "internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>"
>> <internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
>>
>> Kuo-Wei,
>> I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger
>> several times
>> in various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in
>> BA - in
>> order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA
>> organisation.
>> They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence
>> which is
>> crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of
>> the
>> system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.
>> Career plan of staff is one element between others.
>> I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise
>> as staff
>> liaison could gide us.
>> Best regards
>> Wolf-Ulrich
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> From: Wu Kuo-Wei
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM
>> To: Alissa Cooper
>> Cc: ICG Coordination Group
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
>> If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don’t
>> agree the
>> liaison’s position proper to say anything, you can drop my comment.
>>
>> Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
>> 於 2015年7月8日 06:35 寫道:
>> Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I
>> wrote down a
>> few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8.
>> Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and
>> Martin) point
>> out that there are areas where more detail will be developed
>> as part of
>> implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget,
>> etc.). It would
>> be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for
>> our reference.
>> Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting material)?
>>
>> It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try
>> to separate
>> the policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get
>> some input
>> from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as
>> the long term
>> stability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working
>> well for the
>> career development for IANA people in the long run. At the
>> current status,
>> IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better
>> career plan,
>> and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need
>> to learn
>> IANA people, not just treat them as “box”. We decide their
>> future, but
>> ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list
>> other than
>> SLA, budget,..).
>> Again, if you don’t agree the liaison position proper to say,
>> please drop my
>> comment.
>> Thanks.
>> Kuo Wu
>>
>> Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal
>> cannot be
>> considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the
>> CCWG. My
>> question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward
>> with public
>> comment and proposal finalization while we await the output
>> of the CCWG?
>> My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check.
>> Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone
>> Maintainer’s
>> relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion
>> of that. I
>> note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its
>> approval of
>> the proposal. Again I don’t think this is necessarily
>> blocking on our
>> work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek
>> clarification.
>> Alissa
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