[Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
joseph alhadeff
joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Wed Jul 22 15:22:55 UTC 2015
it would be useful if there was a proposed agenda to help plan external
meetings that we could all benefit from...
On 7/22/2015 11:15 AM, WUKnoben wrote:
> Dear Elise, all,
> as my travel for the ICG September meeting in LA has now been arranged
> thanks to ICANN travel department I’m thinking how to make best use of
> the time available. My wish is to grab the chance and visit the IANA
> department – in an individual capacity.
> My arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in
> the afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in a non-official
> way I'd really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues are interested
> and find time to join.
> Best regards
>
> Wolf-Ulrich
> *From:* Elise Gerich <mailto:elise.gerich at icann.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AM
> *To:* WUKnoben <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> ;
> kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com> ; Alissa Cooper
> <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>
> *Cc:* internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
> Wolf-Ulrich,
> We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are
> curious as to what the final impact will be on our current operational
> structure and the interdependencies of the functions.
> -- Elise
> From: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
> Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
> Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM
> To: "kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>"
> <kuoweiwu at gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu at gmail.com>>, Alissa Cooper
> <alissa at cooperw.in <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
> Cc: "internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>"
> <internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
>
> Kuo-Wei,
> I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger
> several times
> in various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in
> BA - in
> order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA
> organisation.
> They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence
> which is
> crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of the
> system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.
> Career plan of staff is one element between others.
> I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise
> as staff
> liaison could gide us.
> Best regards
> Wolf-Ulrich
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> From: Wu Kuo-Wei
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM
> To: Alissa Cooper
> Cc: ICG Coordination Group
> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments
> If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don’t
> agree the
> liaison’s position proper to say anything, you can drop my comment.
>
> Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>
> 於 2015年7月8日 06:35 寫道:
> Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I
> wrote down a
> few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8.
> Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and
> Martin) point
> out that there are areas where more detail will be developed
> as part of
> implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget,
> etc.). It would
> be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for our
> reference.
> Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting material)?
>
> It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try
> to separate
> the policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get
> some input
> from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as the
> long term
> stability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working
> well for the
> career development for IANA people in the long run. At the current
> status,
> IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better
> career plan,
> and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need
> to learn
> IANA people, not just treat them as “box”. We decide their future,
> but
> ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list
> other than
> SLA, budget,..).
> Again, if you don’t agree the liaison position proper to say,
> please drop my
> comment.
> Thanks.
> Kuo Wu
>
> Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal
> cannot be
> considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the
> CCWG. My
> question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward
> with public
> comment and proposal finalization while we await the output of
> the CCWG?
> My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check.
> Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone
> Maintainer’s
> relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion
> of that. I
> note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its
> approval of
> the proposal. Again I don’t think this is necessarily blocking
> on our
> work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek
> clarification.
> Alissa
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