[Internal-cg] "Country" field

Demi Getschko epusp75 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 31 15:04:56 UTC 2015


Russ +1.. UK is an old and well known exception... Better to go thru the 
most used and frequented way in this issue...
demi

On 07/29/2015 06:18 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> Note that cctlds are not 3166. For example, the cctld is UK while 3166 
> is GB. We did choose to use cctld.
>
>    Patrik
>
> On 29 jul 2015, at 19:01, Russ Housley <housley at vigilsec.com 
> <mailto:housley at vigilsec.com>> wrote:
>
>> I can live with this, but I would prefer the label on the field to be 
>> "ISO 3166 Country Code", as that is the term used by ISO.  See 
>> http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes
>>
>> Russ
>>
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> The point of this field is for us to be able to report on the 
>>> geographic breadth of commenters. I would not like to create even 
>>> more work for the secretariat by having to analyze a free-form field 
>>> and decide whether two entires are the same country or not. So I 
>>> hope we can find a different compromise.
>>>
>>> Patrik and I chatted and came up with this proposal:
>>>
>>> Use a drop-down menu.
>>> Label it “Country/Economy”.
>>> Use the ccTLD list as the source data: http://icannwiki.com/CcTLD
>>> List the entries as <Country/economy name> - <two letters>. E.g., 
>>> the entry for Albania would read “Albania - AL”.
>>> Make the field optional.
>>>
>>> Is there anyone who cannot agree to this compromise?
>>>
>>> Alissa
>>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Martin Boyle 
>>> <Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jean-Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that the two letter code is meaningless to most people 
>>>> (although I would hope that a reasonable proportion of the citizens 
>>>> of a country would know what their local code might be).  But I 
>>>> prefer the solution identified in the discussion - and which I 
>>>> thought got good traction - that we leave it to the respondent to 
>>>> complete, rather than provide drop-down menus.  I am aware that the 
>>>> lists can be erratic (including missing off the Channel Islands, 
>>>> for example).
>>>>
>>>> I'd also note that there are cases where listing more than one 
>>>> country might not be appropriate, so a box is easier to use than 
>>>> drop-down menus there, too.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
>>>> Sent: 29 July 2015 15:05
>>>> To: Jennifer Chung
>>>> Cc: internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 21: Action items and decisions 
>>>> taken
>>>>
>>>> Under Action Items below, I do not agree to a switch to ONLY the 
>>>> 2-letter ISO code, as this is not familiar for most users of the 
>>>> Internet.
>>>> Instead, and for practical reasons, I request we have BOTH the 
>>>> 2-letter ISO code AND the "country/economy" name.
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Jacques.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>>> De: "Jennifer Chung" <jen at icgsec.asia <mailto:jen at icgsec.asia>>
>>>> À: internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org>
>>>> Envoyé: Mercredi 29 Juillet 2015 11:22:40
>>>> Objet: [Internal-cg] ICG Call 21: Action items and decisions taken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please find the two lists for ICG Call 21 below:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Action items:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1: Secretariat to correct figure (percentage of Numbers-related 
>>>> transactions) in the IANA transactions graphic in combined proposal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Boyle to extract and send wording to the internal-cg list 
>>>> regarding paragraph 11.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. Cooper to ask XPLANE to add details for the Names portion in the 
>>>> IANA graphic (slide 28 in the webinar deck). Cooper to draft some 
>>>> text accompanying the graphic for additional clarity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. Secretariat to create a downloadable fillable version of the 
>>>> public comment web form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5. Secretariat to ensure that latest version of the public comment 
>>>> web materials is reflected on the public comment web form and ICG 
>>>> public comment web page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6. Secretariat to change web form field to Country/Economy and 
>>>> order them by ISO 3166 2-letter country code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 7. Niebel to send in suggested edit to the internal-cg mailing list 
>>>> to the Q&A matrix regarding IETF section 2.3 and 2.5.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Decisions Taken:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. ICG members to send in any edits to the ICG FAQ by Friday July 
>>>> 31 with the aim to finalize document on the internal-cg mailing 
>>>> list mid next week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Edits to language in flux in paragraph 62 of the combined 
>>>> proposal to be parked until after CCWG-Accountability discussions 
>>>> on this issue concludes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. ICG members to send any last comments regarding the Executive 
>>>> Summary, ICG report, public comment web site materials to the 
>>>> internal-cg mailing list before Thursday 30 July 07:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. The ICG public comment period will go forward as planned to be 
>>>> launched on Friday 31 July.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5. ICG Communications plan for the public comment period launch 
>>>> will be shared on the internal-cg mailing list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6. Minutes approval to be taken on the internal-cg mailing list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jennifer
>>>>
>>>>
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