[Internal-cg] ICG Call#13 Action item 3 [was RE: Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals]

Jennifer Chung jen at icgsec.asia
Wed Apr 8 16:12:49 UTC 2015


Hi Milton,

 

Call 13, Action Item 3 stems from the discussion from pg 2-3 of the 11 Mar
minutes v3, attached and reproduced below in full:

 

*        Arasteh reiterated his request to clarify the jurisdiction issue
regarding the current IETF-ICANN MoU.  He further requested clarification on
the management of the coordination of the three operational communities as
referenced in the protocol parameters proposal (pg 13, section IV
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09> ).

o   Regarding Arasteh's first point, Arkko stated that it was his
recollection that the jurisdiction issue was resolved during the
face-to-face meeting, and that it was clarified by Arkko and Housley that
IAB is the final arbiter for any issues between ICANN and IETF.  Arkko
stated that the ICG agreed (and have sent) a question to the operational
communities relating to the IPR (domain names and trademarks of iana.org).

o   Regarding Arasteh's second point, Arkko stated that coordination between
the three communities in the IETF process is described in various RFCs and
has been a point-to-point coordination between the communities that has
occurred many times without issue.

*  Arasteh requested that Arkko put the above explanation in writing for
clarification and discussion.  Arasteh further emphasized that the
jurisdiction issue is a legal issue that should be properly addressed, and
the current answer of 'IAB' is insufficient in his view.

*  Arkko stated that the IETF community has produced a proposal that
explains the IETF process, including accountability mechanisms, and that the
community's opinion is clearly reflected in the document.  Arkko offered to
provide further information in an email to the internal-cg mailing list
regarding practicalities of coordination between the operational communities
(referred to in the protocol parameters proposal), but emphasized that he
cannot change the protocol parameters' proposal itself.

*        Adobe Connect chat: Mundy and Housley agreed with Arkko regarding
his view that the ICG members cannot change the community proposal.

*        El Bashir suggested that the ICG continue discussion of this matter
on the internal-cg mailing list

Action Item 3: The ICG to continue discussing on the internal cg-mailing
list about: 1) jurisdiction issue of the current ICANN-IETF MoU; 2) the
practicalities of coordination between the operational communities (referred
to in the protocol parameters proposal and referenced RFCs).

 

Please let me know if you have questions or need further clarifications re
the above.

 

Best Regards,

 

Jennifer

 

From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:45 AM
To: Jennifer Chung; internal-cg at ianacg.org
Subject: RE: [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the
Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals

 

Jennifer

This summary is good, I wrote my last message before I had seen this
attachment with the summary of arguments. 

However, while this is excellent summary fulfills action item 2 from ICG
call #12, I still am not sure what the action item #3 from call #13 is. 

 

--MM

 

From: Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at ianacg.org] On Behalf Of
Jennifer Chung
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:33 AM
To: internal-cg at ianacg.org <mailto:internal-cg at ianacg.org> 
Subject: [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the
Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals

 

Dear All,

 

As requested by Jean-Jacques on the recently concluded call regarding this
action item:

 

ICG Call #12, Action Item 2: ICG to discuss and call for volunteer/pen
holder on the internal-cg mailing list to consolidate information collected
during the assessment process of the operational communities' proposals in
an ICG report that can be published together with the final proposal

 

Please find attached the chart consolidating questions and answers discussed
during the assessment process for the Numbers and Protocol Parameters
proposals.

 

Dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wad3entgv3dqr3m/Summary%20of%20internally%20resolv
ed%20questions-v2.xlsx?dl=0 

 

Best Regards,

 

Jennifer

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