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    My recollection of the comment was a statement that the voting
    potential might be dependent on some developments related to
    parallel work-streams. Not being in those, I can't be specific as
    to details. Absent a specific objection from anyone who may know
    better we'll take the Milton's comments on board as suggested;
    unless your second paragraph suggests a need for a change as to tone
    related to the likelihood of government ccTLD voting impacting
    outcome ?<br>
    <br>
    Joe<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/28/2015 9:41 AM, Martin Boyle
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            would just note that the CSC is not supposed to be a voting
            body, but might if it escalated to the ccNSO and GNSO for
            possible further escalation. That step suggests to me that
            it will need to work through consensus, but then its role
            should be focussed on the technical performance, so the
            decision will be about whether the IANA functions operator
            will be able to put [whatever mess] right.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thats
            not to belittle the chance of voting, but it would be
            inappropriate to prevent a ccTLD being represented because
            it was government owned or controlled. I think the answer
            to the concern would be that even two
            government-controlled ccTLDs would not have an absolute
            majority in and decision by vote.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            cannot remember the discussion Joe alludes to: I think I
            might have questioned this, if someone had: the thing about
            the CSC is that it should seek to resolve performance issues
            with the PTI (or a subsequent IANA functions operator) to
            the PTI Board and further if necessary. In itself it can
            only refer performance issues that are not being resolved to
            the ccNSO &amp; GNSO for consideration. It would be for
            the ccNSO and GNSO to decide whether the issue were serious
            enough to refer to a special IFR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">So
            Im fine with Miltons re-wording.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> Internal-cg
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>joseph alhadeff<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 26 September 2015 17:01<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] FW: Please find
                attached revised summary proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Milton:<br>
          <br>
          I am fine with the suggestion, if others are OK.. Recall that
          they yellow was to see if there was a needed cross reference
          to other sections that might address the issue more fully. I
          recall that a question had been raised at the meeting, perhaps
          by Kavouss, questioning the assertion related to voting in the
          CSC being a real issue due to issues being resolved in
          parallel workstreams...<br>
          <br>
          Joe <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 9/26/2015 11:14 AM, Mueller, Milton L
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Joe,
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
              would like to suggest some improvements in the paragraph
              on the NTIA criterion pertaining to governments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You
              wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">A range of comments addressed the role of
            governments. Among the most relevant: a couple felt that
            government roles would be too constrained and they would not
            be able to fulfill all of the criteria of the Tunis Agenda;
            <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">a
              couple also highlighted a concern for the possible role
              future legislation by US government based on concern of
              jurisdiction</span>; and
            <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">more
              commentators focused on what they perceived to be a
              possible enhanced voting role for the GAC and concerns of
              governments as owners of ccTLDs in the CSC</span>. The
            proposal cannot address all hypothetical situations and has
            relied on the community processes to find the right balance
            across the stakeholder equities and operational
            requirements. The ICG sees no further action as appropriate
            at this point, but notes the concerns raised.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">I
              would propose to replace this paragraph with the following
              statement:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F4E79"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">The
              overwhelming majority of comments agreed that the proposal
              does not replace NTIA stewardship with a government-led or
              intergovernmental solution. Some comments felt that
              governmental roles would be too constrained; others felt
              that the role of the U.S. government was still too strong
              due to the retention of U.S. jurisdiction. A few other
              commentators expressed concerns about the role of
              government-controlled ccTLDs in the CSC. The ICG notes the
              concerns raised, but believes that the proposal has relied
              on the community processes to find the right balance
              across the stakeholder equities and operational
              requirements, and thus sees no further action as needed.
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F4E79"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">A
              small number of comments expressed concern about the
              strengthening of the GAC in the new accountability
              arrangements. The ICG notes that insofar as they justify
              changes in the proposal, these comments are best addressed
              by the CCWG on enhanced accountability.
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">
                    Internal-cg [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jennifer Chung<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 1:58 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> [Internal-cg] FW: Please find
                    attached revised summary proposal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">FYI
                please see the email from Joe below with the attached
                proposed text.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">
                    joseph alhadeff [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com</a>]
                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 1:47 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Jennifer Chung &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:jen@icgsec.asia"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jen@icgsec.asia">jen@icgsec.asia</a></a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Fwd: Please find attached revised
                    summary proposal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">FYI<br>
                <br>
                -------- Forwarded Message -------- <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
                        align="right"><b>Subject: </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Please find attached revised
                        summary proposal<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
                        align="right"><b>Date: </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:49:09
                        -0400<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
                        align="right"><b>From: </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">joseph alhadeff <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">&lt;joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com&gt;</a></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right"
                        align="right"><b>Organization: </b>
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Oracle Corporation<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        align="right"><b>To: </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">&lt;internal-cg@icann.org&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <pre>Please note that I found no cross reference in our proposal to the role <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>of government as multistakeholder participant that would address the <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>concern raised that such participation may bee seen as at odds with the <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>NTIA criteria. I have tried to raise an innocuous addition as a <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>footnote to deal with the concern in a neutral fashion. I have <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>highlighted it in red to facilitate ease of comment. Those topics <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>highlighted in yellow are possible places where other more specific work <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>may supersede this language and be replaced by a cross reference. There <o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>is one margin question as well.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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              <pre>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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