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<DIV>Dear Kavouss,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">I\u2019m
personally interested to see the IANA department which to my understanding will
be affected by the outcome of our discussions.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">There will
be no invlvement of the ICG officially, just a visit of one or more persons who
\u2013 for transparency \u2013 are members of the ICG.<BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">Kavouss Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 11, 2015 12:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=internal-cg@ianacg.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal
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<DIV>Dear Wolf</DIV>
<DIV>I do not understand the purpose of the one hour meeting.</DIV>
<DIV>If you are interested you can go there but without any involvement if ICG
in any discussion affecting our works</DIV>
<DIV>In an independent manner</DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>Kavouss <BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 10 Sep 2015, at 11:57, WUKnoben <<A
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>>
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<DIV>Hi Elise,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">sorry for
the late reaction to your kind message. I\u2019m still interested to visit the IANA
office on 17 September at the occasion of the ICG meeting next week. Main
interest is to see the IANA staff working environment in order to get an
impression which \u201chardware\u201d we\u2019re talking about besides the complex context
thereof. In addition, a little exchange with you and your colleages available
would be appreciated.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Some ICG
colleagues showed interest to join (Hartmuth, Martin, Joe, Mary, maybe Kuo-Wei
Wu) depending on their flight schedule. So we should be a small team somewhat
between 1 and 5. I guess around 1 hour would be enough time .</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">I\u2019d like
to ask you not to initiate a big effort around the visit. Perhaps it could be
arranged later in the afternoon that we can move thereafter to the reception
planned at the hotel (time?). <BR><BR>Thanks and
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=elise.gerich@icann.org
href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">Elise Gerich</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</A> ; <A
title=kuoweiwu@gmail.com
href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title=alissa@cooperw.in href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa Cooper</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=internal-cg@ianacg.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal
assessments</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Wolf-Ulrich and all of you have expressed an interest,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are certainly welcome to visit the office in Playa Vista, California
on Thursday Sept 17th. Other than seeing where we work and introductions
to individuals in the department, it is unclear whether that is worth the trip
to our office. The hotel where the ICG meeting will take place is about
30 minutes by car from our office (that is what Google maps indicates).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also, Keith Davidson has already planned a working meeting with us to
discuss the ccNSO FOI for Thursday afternoon, and we would have to coordinate
the visit to not conflict with this previously scheduled meeting. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Do let me know if you are still interested in visiting the ICANN office
in Playa Vista, and we will work to find a time that is mutually
convenient.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>See you all at the ICG meeting in Los Angeles in September,</DIV>
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<DIV>-- Elise </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </SPAN>WUKnoben <<A
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reply-To: </SPAN>WUKnoben <<A
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </SPAN>Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 5:15
PM<BR><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </SPAN>Elise Gerich <<A
href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">elise.gerich@icann.org</A>>, "<A
href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</A>" <<A
href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</A>>, Alissa Cooper
<<A href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </SPAN>"<A
href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</A>" <<A
href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN>Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on
proposal assessments<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Elise, all,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">as my
travel for the ICG September meeting in LA has now been arranged thanks to
ICANN travel department I\u2019m thinking how to make best use of the time
available. My wish is to grab the chance and visit the IANA department \u2013 in
an individual capacity.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">My
arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in the
afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in a non-official way I'd
really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues are interested and find time
to join.<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=elise.gerich@icann.org
href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">Elise Gerich</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</A> ; <A
title=kuoweiwu@gmail.com
href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title=alissa@cooperw.in href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa Cooper</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=internal-cg@ianacg.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal
assessments</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Wolf-Ulrich,</DIV>
<DIV>We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are
curious as to what the final impact will be on our current operational
structure and the interdependencies of the functions.</DIV>
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<DIV>-- Elise </DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </SPAN>WUKnoben <<A
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reply-To: </SPAN>WUKnoben <<A
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </SPAN>Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21
AM<BR><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </SPAN>"<A
href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</A>" <<A
href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</A>>, Alissa Cooper
<<A href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </SPAN>"<A
href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</A>" <<A
href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</A>><BR><SPAN
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<DIV>Kuo-Wei,</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger
several times </DIV>
<DIV>in various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in BA
- in </DIV>
<DIV>order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA
organisation. </DIV>
<DIV>They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence which
is </DIV>
<DIV>crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of the
</DIV>
<DIV>system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.</DIV>
<DIV>Career plan of staff is one element between others.</DIV>
<DIV>I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise as
staff </DIV>
<DIV>liaison could gide us.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best regards</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Wolf-Ulrich</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- </DIV>
<DIV>From: Wu Kuo-Wei</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM</DIV>
<DIV>To: Alissa Cooper</DIV>
<DIV>Cc: ICG Coordination Group</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don\u2019t agree
the </DIV>
<DIV>liaison\u2019s position proper to say anything, you can drop my
comment.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I wrote
down a </DIV>
<DIV>few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and
Martin) point </DIV>
<DIV>out that there are areas where more detail will be developed as
part of </DIV>
<DIV>implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget, etc.). It
would </DIV>
<DIV>be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for our
reference. </DIV>
<DIV>Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting
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<DIV>It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try to
separate </DIV>
<DIV>the policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get some
input </DIV>
<DIV>from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as the
long term </DIV>
<DIV>stability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working well
for the </DIV>
<DIV>career development for IANA people in the long run. At the current
status, </DIV>
<DIV>IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better career
plan, </DIV>
<DIV>and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need to
learn </DIV>
<DIV>IANA people, not just treat them as \u201cbox\u201d. We decide their future,
but </DIV>
<DIV>ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list other
than </DIV>
<DIV>SLA, budget,..).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Again, if you don\u2019t agree the liaison position proper to say, please
drop my </DIV>
<DIV>comment.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Kuo Wu</DIV>
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<DIV>Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal
cannot be </DIV>
<DIV>considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the CCWG.
My </DIV>
<DIV>question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward with
public </DIV>
<DIV>comment and proposal finalization while we await the output of the
CCWG? </DIV>
<DIV>My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone Maintainer\u2019s
</DIV>
<DIV>relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion of
that. I </DIV>
<DIV>note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its
approval of </DIV>
<DIV>the proposal. Again I don\u2019t think this is necessarily blocking on
our </DIV>
<DIV>work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek
clarification.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Alissa</DIV>
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