<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Thanks for your kind offer, Elise.</div><div>I'd do my very best to be at your office that time you're suggesting. But this lies in the hands of the airline as well as the immigration procedure. My flight is scheduled to arrive LAX at 12:50, and I have real doubts that I can make it.</div><div>However, wouldn't there be still a chance to meet at around 4 pm after your meeting with Becky and Keith?</div><div><br></div><div>So far Milton would also join.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Wolf-Ulrich</div><div><br><br>Sent from my personal phone<div><br>Am 10.09.2015 um 12:42 schrieb Elise Gerich <<a href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">elise.gerich@icann.org</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>Dear Wolf-Ulrich,</div><div><br></div><div>You and other members are always welcome to stop by the ICANN office in Playa Vista, California. However, I am not sure what \u201chardware\u201d you are hoping to see. All the hardware security modules, servers, and routers are located in a colocation facility that is independent from the ICANN office. We carry on our primary operations in a very normal office building. </div><div><br></div><div>From 2:30 \u2013 4:00 pm our staff is committed to a meeting with Keith Davidson and Becky Burr to discuss the Framework of Interpretation topic. If you and our other ICG colleagues would like to come to the office at 1:30pm, I would be able to show you our office space and introduce to those individuals who will be in the office that day in advance of the meeting about the FOI. </div><div><br></div><div>Please let us know your plans when you have finalized them.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><div>-- Elise </div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 4:57 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Elise Gerich <<a href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">elise.gerich@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>>, Alissa Cooper <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; FONT-SIZE: 14px; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"><div>Hi Elise,</div><div> </div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">sorry for the late reaction to your kind message. I\u2019m still interested to visit the IANA office on 17 September at the occasion of the ICG meeting next week. Main interest is to see the IANA
staff working environment in order to get an impression which \u201chardware\u201d we\u2019re talking about besides the complex context thereof. In addition, a little exchange with you and your colleages available would be appreciated.</div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"> </div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Some ICG colleagues showed interest to join (Hartmuth, Martin, Joe, Mary, maybe Kuo-Wei Wu) depending on their flight schedule. So we should be a small team somewhat between 1 and 5. I guess
around 1 hour would be enough time .</div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"> </div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">I\u2019d like to ask you not to initiate a big effort around the visit. Perhaps it could be arranged later in the afternoon that we can move thereafter to the reception planned at the hotel (time?).
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Thanks and regards<br><br>
Wolf-Ulrich<br><br></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><div style="FONT: 10pt tahoma"><div> </div><div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="elise.gerich@icann.org" href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">
Elise Gerich</a> </div><div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:16 PM</div><div><b>To:</b> <a title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">
WUKnoben</a> ; <a title="kuoweiwu@gmail.com" href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a> ;
<a title="alissa@cooperw.in" href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa Cooper</a> </div><div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="internal-cg@ianacg.org" href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">
internal-cg@ianacg.org</a> </div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments</div></div></div><div> </div></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><div><div><div>Dear Wolf-Ulrich and all of you have expressed an interest,</div><div> </div><div>You are certainly welcome to visit the office in Playa Vista, California on Thursday Sept 17th. Other than seeing where we work and introductions to individuals in the department, it is unclear whether that is worth the trip to our office. The hotel
where the ICG meeting will take place is about 30 minutes by car from our office (that is what Google maps indicates).</div><div> </div><div>Also, Keith Davidson has already planned a working meeting with us to discuss the ccNSO FOI for Thursday afternoon, and we would have to coordinate the visit to not conflict with this previously scheduled meeting.
</div><div> </div><div>Do let me know if you are still interested in visiting the ICANN office in Playa Vista, and we will work to find a time that is mutually convenient.</div><div> </div><div>See you all at the ICG meeting in Los Angeles in September,</div><div><div>-- Elise </div><div> </div></div></div></div><div> </div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; COLOR: black; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; TEXT-ALIGN: left; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </span>WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reply-To: </span>WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 5:15 PM<br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </span>Elise Gerich <<a href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">elise.gerich@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>>, Alissa Cooper
<<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments<br></div><div> </div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><div><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; FONT-SIZE: 14px; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"><div>Dear Elise, all,</div><div> </div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">as my travel for the ICG September meeting in LA has now been arranged thanks to ICANN travel department I\u2019m thinking how to make best use of the time available. My wish is to grab the chance
and visit the IANA department \u2013 in an individual capacity.</div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">My arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in the afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in a non-official way I'd really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues
are interested and find time to join.<br></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Best regards<br><br>
Wolf-Ulrich<br></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><div style="FONT: 10pt tahoma"><div> </div><div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="elise.gerich@icann.org" href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">
Elise Gerich</a> </div><div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AM</div><div><b>To:</b> <a title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">
WUKnoben</a> ; <a title="kuoweiwu@gmail.com" href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a> ;
<a title="alissa@cooperw.in" href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa Cooper</a> </div><div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="internal-cg@ianacg.org" href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">
internal-cg@ianacg.org</a> </div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments</div></div></div><div> </div></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><div><div><div>Wolf-Ulrich,</div><div>We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are curious as to what the final impact will be on our current operational structure and the interdependencies of the functions.</div><div><div>-- Elise </div><div> </div></div></div></div><div> </div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; COLOR: black; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; TEXT-ALIGN: left; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </span>WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reply-To: </span>WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM<br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>>, Alissa Cooper <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments<br></div><div> </div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><div><div><div>Kuo-Wei,</div><div> </div><div>I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger several times
</div><div>in various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in BA - in </div><div>order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA organisation. </div><div>They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence which is </div><div>crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of the </div><div>system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.</div><div>Career plan of staff is one element between others.</div><div>I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise as staff </div><div>liaison could gide us.</div><div> </div><div>Best regards</div><div> </div><div>Wolf-Ulrich</div><div> </div><div>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- </div><div>From: Wu Kuo-Wei</div><div>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM</div><div>To: Alissa Cooper</div><div>Cc: ICG Coordination Group</div><div>Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments</div><div> </div><div>If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don\u2019t agree the </div><div>liaison\u2019s position proper to say anything, you can drop my comment.</div><div> </div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><div>Alissa Cooper <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>> \u65bc 2015\u5e747\u67088\u65e5 06:35 \u5beb\u9053\uff1a</div><div> </div><div>Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I wrote down a </div><div>few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8.</div><div> </div><div>Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and Martin) point </div><div>out that there are areas where more detail will be developed as part of </div><div>implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget, etc.). It would </div><div>be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for our reference. </div><div>Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting material)?</div></blockquote><div> </div><div>It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try to separate
</div><div>the policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get some input </div><div>from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as the long term
</div><div>stability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working well for the
</div><div>career development for IANA people in the long run. At the current status, </div><div>IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better career plan, </div><div>and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need to learn </div><div>IANA people, not just treat them as \u201cbox\u201d. We decide their future, but </div><div>ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list other than </div><div>SLA, budget,..).</div><div> </div><div>Again, if you don\u2019t agree the liaison position proper to say, please drop my
</div><div>comment.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks.</div><div> </div><div>Kuo Wu</div><div> </div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><div> </div><div>Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal cannot be </div><div>considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the CCWG. My </div><div>question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward with public </div><div>comment and proposal finalization while we await the output of the CCWG? </div><div>My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check.</div><div> </div><div>Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone Maintainer\u2019s </div><div>relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion of that. I </div><div>note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its approval of </div><div>the proposal. Again I don\u2019t think this is necessarily blocking on our </div><div>work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek clarification.</div><div> </div><div>Alissa</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Internal-cg mailing list</div><div><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org">Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org</a></div><div><a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org">http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org</a></div></blockquote><div> </div><div> </div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Internal-cg mailing list</div><div><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org">Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org</a></div><div><a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org">http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org</a></div><div> </div><div> </div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Internal-cg mailing list</div><div><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org">Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org</a></div><div><a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org">http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org</a></div><div> </div></div></div></blockquote></span><hr>
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