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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Alissa,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That looks good to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On his complaints about this not being a “consensus of the global multi-stakeholder community. Indeed, as I have pointed out previously, CWG-Stewardship is
an ICANN group, constituted under ICANN rules, so it cannot be considered to be representative of the global multi-stakeholder community,” he does seem to miss the point. The process was based in ICANN through the chartering organisations and that is hardly
surprising given the role of ICANN (and indeed the invitation from NTIA). However, the process was not closed, and was based around developing consensus – no votes and no sustained opposition on compromises that allowed the CWG to move forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And that is probably the key feature supporting your third paragraph: his views had not really gained significant traction – it was one man’s voice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One specific issue that probably needs to be addressed is his criticism on jurisdiction. This was discussed. There was general agreement that there was not
enough support for proposing an immediate change of jurisdiction and not enough information on what would be the relevant merits of other jurisdictions and the criteria required from a given jurisdiction. It was also quite clearly
<i>not</i> an issue that needed to be resolved to enable transition (these discussions have been going on for quite a few years within ICANN), but something that could be addressed in subsequent work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alissa Cooper<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 August 2015 16:02<br>
<b>To:</b> IANA etc etc Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CWG-Stewardship] Comments from Richard Hill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See the mail from Jonathan below. I’ve quoted below the analysis we previously wrote up but did not send to the CWG. Any objections to sending this back in response to Jonathan’s request?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding Richard's claim about the final proposal not having gone out for public comment, in our view what he suggests could yield a process that never ends, given that further comments can always be provided whenever a document is put
out for public comment. Thus requiring a “final” document to be put out for public comment is an unreasonable requirement for a process intended to terminate.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding his claim about the global multistakeholder community, our understanding of the CWG’s charter is that the group is open to any interested participant.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding his claim about his specific comments on the proposal, we note that the CWG proposal states on p. 51 that "The final proposal has received the consensus support of the CWG-Stewardship with no objections or minority statements
recorded for Chartering Organization consideration.” We note that rationales were given and CWG consensus positions explained for each comment received during the public comment period that was not included in the proposal (including Richard’s).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alissa<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Comments from Richard Hill</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Date: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">July 28, 2015 at 2:54:54 AM PDT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">To: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"'Alissa Cooper'" <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>>, <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Cc: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"'Jonathan Robinson'" <<a href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alissa,</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank-you for this, please do go ahead and send the ICG thoughts on this through to the CWG.</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Alissa
Cooper [<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in"><span style="color:purple">mailto:alissa@cooperw.in</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>27 July 2015 16:39<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>IANA <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[CWG-Stewardship] Comments from Richard Hill</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">The ICG has received the following from Richard Hill: <<a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/pipermail/icg-forum_ianacg.org/2015-June/000001.html"><span style="color:purple">http://mm.ianacg.org/pipermail/icg-forum_ianacg.org/2015-June/000001.html</span></a>>
According to the process the ICG uses to handle forum comments <<a href="https://www.ianacg.org/icg-files/documents/Community-Comments-Handling-1May15-final.pdf"><span style="color:purple">https://www.ianacg.org/icg-files/documents/Community-Comments-Handling-1May15-final.pdf</span></a>>,
the ICG assesses whether the comments are to be investigated by the operational community itself, and if we draw that conclusion we make the OC aware of the comment and ask whether the OC has any input. So we would appreciate input you may have no later than
August 10.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">The ICG has also reviewed these questions in light of the CWG charter and process, and we would be happy to send our thoughts if helpful to the CWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Alissa Cooper on behalf of the ICG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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