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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/2015 11:44 AM, Hartmut Richard
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/15 12:15 PM, WUKnoben wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Dear Elise, all,</div>
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                  <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri';
                    COLOR: #000000">as my travel for the ICG September
                    meeting in LA has now been arranged thanks to ICANN
                    travel department I\u2019m thinking how to make best use
                    of the time available. My wish is to grab the chance
                    and visit the IANA department \u2013 in an individual
                    capacity.</div>
                  <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri';
                    COLOR: #000000">My arrival shall be 12:40 on
                    Thursday Sep 17. There would be time in the
                    afternoon for the visit. If it could be arranged in
                    a non-official way I'd really appreciate. Maybe
                    other ICG colleagues are interested and find time to
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                    COLOR: #000000">Best regards<br>
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                    Wolf-Ulrich<br>
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                        <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                            Gerich</a> </div>
                        <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AM</div>
                        <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
                            href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</a>
                          ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            title="kuoweiwu@gmail.com"
                            href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>
                          ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            title="alissa@cooperw.in"
                            href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa
                            Cooper</a> </div>
                        <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            title="internal-cg@ianacg.org"
                            href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>
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                        <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts
                          on proposal assessments</div>
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                        <div>Wolf-Ulrich,</div>
                        <div>We are following the assessment of the
                          various proposals and are curious as to what
                          the final impact will be on our current
                          operational structure and the
                          interdependencies of the functions.</div>
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                          <div>-- Elise </div>
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                          style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </span>WUKnoben

                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>&gt;<br>
                        <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reply-To: </span>WUKnoben

                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </span>Wednesday,

                        July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM<br>
                        <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </span>"<a
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                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>&gt;,

                        Alissa Cooper &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>&gt;<br>
                        <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </span>"<a
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                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </span>Re:

                        [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments<br>
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                            <div>Kuo-Wei,</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>I'm glad you raising this point. I've
                              already raised my finger several times </div>
                            <div>in various meetings - including the CSG
                              meeting with the board in BA - in </div>
                            <div>order not to forget the people in the
                              present and future IANA organisation. </div>
                            <div>They are the ones who ensure continuous
                              operational excellence which is </div>
                            <div>crucial with regards to the security,
                              stability and resiliency of the </div>
                            <div>system - one of the basic NTIA
                              requirements.</div>
                            <div>Career plan of staff is one element
                              between others.</div>
                            <div>I would encourage to outreach at an
                              appropriate time. Maybe Elise as staff </div>
                            <div>liaison could gide us.</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>Best regards</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>Wolf-Ulrich</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- </div>
                            <div>From: Wu Kuo-Wei</div>
                            <div>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM</div>
                            <div>To: Alissa Cooper</div>
                            <div>Cc: ICG Coordination Group</div>
                            <div>Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on
                              proposal assessments</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>If I may, I like to speak in my
                              personal capacity. If you don\u2019t agree the
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                            <div>liaison\u2019s position proper to say
                              anything, you can drop my comment.</div>
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                              <div>Alissa Cooper &lt;<a
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                                \u65bc 2015\u5e747\u67088\u65e5 06:35 \u5beb\u9053\uff1a</div>
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                              <div>Thank you to everyone who did a names
                                proposal assessment. I wrote down a </div>
                              <div>few thoughts in preparation for our
                                discussion on July 8.</div>
                              <div> </div>
                              <div>Both Alan and the names folks
                                (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and Martin)
                                point </div>
                              <div>out that there are areas where more
                                detail will be developed as part of </div>
                              <div>implementation (service levels, IANA
                                budget, PTI budget, etc.). It would </div>
                              <div>be helpful for us to have the
                                definitive list of these for our
                                reference. </div>
                              <div>Is that list somewhere in the
                                proposal (or supporting material)?</div>
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                            <div> </div>
                            <div>It could be part of implementation. But
                              as name proposal, it try to separate </div>
                            <div>the policy and operator to establish
                              PTI. We might need to get some input </div>
                            <div>from IANA people who will be moved to
                              PTI as name proposal (as the long term </div>
                            <div>stability issue of PTI). It is critical
                              for such design working well for the </div>
                            <div>career development for IANA people in
                              the long run. At the current status, </div>
                            <div>IANA people can move to other
                              department of ICANN for better career
                              plan, </div>
                            <div>and receiving reasonable promotion. We
                              (ICG and ICANN) might need to learn </div>
                            <div>IANA people, not just treat them as
                              \u201cbox\u201d. We decide their future, but </div>
                            <div>ignore their voice. So I will suggest
                              to add this into the list other than </div>
                            <div>SLA, budget,..).</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>Again, if you don\u2019t agree the liaison
                              position proper to say, please drop my </div>
                            <div>comment.</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>Thanks.</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>Kuo Wu</div>
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                              <div>Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy
                                point out that the proposal cannot be </div>
                              <div>considered complete since it is
                                dependent on outputs from the CCWG. My </div>
                              <div>question: does that prevent us in the
                                ICG from moving forward with public </div>
                              <div>comment and proposal finalization
                                while we await the output of the CCWG? </div>
                              <div>My personal view is that it does not
                                but I wanted to check.</div>
                              <div> </div>
                              <div>Russ Mundy raises a good question
                                about the Root Zone Maintainer\u2019s </div>
                              <div>relationship to the IFO and I look
                                forward to our discussion of that. I </div>
                              <div>note that the SSAC made a similar
                                comment to the CWG in its approval of </div>
                              <div>the proposal. Again I don\u2019t think
                                this is necessarily blocking on our </div>
                              <div>work, but it might be a detail where
                                we need to seek clarification.</div>
                              <div> </div>
                              <div>Alissa</div>
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