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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/15 12:15 PM, WUKnoben wrote:<br>
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                <div>Dear Elise, all,</div>
                <div>�</div>
                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri';
                  COLOR: #000000">as my travel for the ICG September
                  meeting in LA has now been arranged thanks to ICANN
                  travel department I\u2019m thinking how to make best use of
                  the time available. My wish is to grab the chance and
                  visit the IANA department \u2013 in an individual capacity.</div>
                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri';
                  COLOR: #000000">My arrival shall be 12:40 on Thursday
                  Sep 17. There would be time in the afternoon for the
                  visit. If it could be arranged in a non-official way
                  I'd really appreciate. Maybe other ICG colleagues are
                  interested and find time to join.<br>
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                  COLOR: #000000">Best regards<br>
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                  Wolf-Ulrich<br>
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                    <div>�</div>
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                      <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                          title="elise.gerich@icann.org"
                          href="mailto:elise.gerich@icann.org">Elise
                          Gerich</a> </div>
                      <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 10, 2015 2:44 AM</div>
                      <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
                          href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</a>
                        ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          title="kuoweiwu@gmail.com"
                          href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>
                        ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          title="alissa@cooperw.in"
                          href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa Cooper</a>
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                      <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          title="internal-cg@ianacg.org"
                          href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>
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                      <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on
                        proposal assessments</div>
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                  <div>�</div>
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                      <div>Wolf-Ulrich,</div>
                      <div>We are following the assessment of the
                        various proposals and are curious as to what the
                        final impact will be on our current operational
                        structure and the interdependencies of the
                        functions.</div>
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                        <div>-- Elise </div>
                        <div>�</div>
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                  <div>�</div>
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                        style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </span>WUKnoben
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>&gt;<br>
                      <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reply-To: </span>WUKnoben
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>&gt;<br>
                      <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </span>Wednesday,
                      July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM<br>
                      <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </span>"<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>"
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
                      Alissa Cooper &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>&gt;<br>
                      <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </span>"<a
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                        href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>"
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>&gt;<br>
                      <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </span>Re:
                      [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments<br>
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                    <div>�</div>
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                          <div>Kuo-Wei,</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>I'm glad you raising this point. I've
                            already raised my finger several times </div>
                          <div>in various meetings - including the CSG
                            meeting with the board in BA - in </div>
                          <div>order not to forget the people in the
                            present and future IANA organisation. </div>
                          <div>They are the ones who ensure continuous
                            operational excellence which is </div>
                          <div>crucial with regards to the security,
                            stability and resiliency of the </div>
                          <div>system - one of the basic NTIA
                            requirements.</div>
                          <div>Career plan of staff is one element
                            between others.</div>
                          <div>I would encourage to outreach at an
                            appropriate time. Maybe Elise as staff </div>
                          <div>liaison could gide us.</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>Best regards</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>Wolf-Ulrich</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- </div>
                          <div>From: Wu Kuo-Wei</div>
                          <div>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM</div>
                          <div>To: Alissa Cooper</div>
                          <div>Cc: ICG Coordination Group</div>
                          <div>Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on
                            proposal assessments</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>If I may, I like to speak in my personal
                            capacity. If you don\u2019t agree the </div>
                          <div>liaison\u2019s position proper to say
                            anything, you can drop my comment.</div>
                          <div>�</div>
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                            <div>Alissa Cooper &lt;<a
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                                href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>&gt;
                              \u65bc 2015\u5e747\u67088\u65e5 06:35 \u5beb\u9053\uff1a</div>
                            <div>�</div>
                            <div>Thank you to everyone who did a names
                              proposal assessment. I wrote down a </div>
                            <div>few thoughts in preparation for our
                              discussion on July 8.</div>
                            <div>�</div>
                            <div>Both Alan and the names folks
                              (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and Martin)
                              point </div>
                            <div>out that there are areas where more
                              detail will be developed as part of </div>
                            <div>implementation (service levels, IANA
                              budget, PTI budget, etc.). It would </div>
                            <div>be helpful for us to have the
                              definitive list of these for our
                              reference. </div>
                            <div>Is that list somewhere in the proposal
                              (or supporting material)?</div>
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                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>It could be part of implementation. But
                            as name proposal, it try to separate </div>
                          <div>the policy and operator to establish PTI.
                            We might need to get some input </div>
                          <div>from IANA people who will be moved to PTI
                            as name proposal (as the long term </div>
                          <div>stability issue of PTI). It is critical
                            for such design working well for the </div>
                          <div>career development for IANA people in the
                            long run. At the current status, </div>
                          <div>IANA people can move to other department
                            of ICANN for better career plan, </div>
                          <div>and receiving reasonable promotion. We
                            (ICG and ICANN) might need to learn </div>
                          <div>IANA people, not just treat them as
                            \u201cbox\u201d. We decide their future, but </div>
                          <div>ignore their voice. So I will suggest to
                            add this into the list other than </div>
                          <div>SLA, budget,..).</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>Again, if you don\u2019t agree the liaison
                            position proper to say, please drop my </div>
                          <div>comment.</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>Thanks.</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>Kuo Wu</div>
                          <div>�</div>
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                            <div>Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point
                              out that the proposal cannot be </div>
                            <div>considered complete since it is
                              dependent on outputs from the CCWG. My </div>
                            <div>question: does that prevent us in the
                              ICG from moving forward with public </div>
                            <div>comment and proposal finalization while
                              we await the output of the CCWG? </div>
                            <div>My personal view is that it does not
                              but I wanted to check.</div>
                            <div>�</div>
                            <div>Russ Mundy raises a good question about
                              the Root Zone Maintainer\u2019s </div>
                            <div>relationship to the IFO and I look
                              forward to our discussion of that. I </div>
                            <div>note that the SSAC made a similar
                              comment to the CWG in its approval of </div>
                            <div>the proposal. Again I don\u2019t think this
                              is necessarily blocking on our </div>
                            <div>work, but it might be a detail where we
                              need to seek clarification.</div>
                            <div>�</div>
                            <div>Alissa</div>
                            <div>�</div>
                            <div>�</div>
                            <div>�</div>
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                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>�</div>
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                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>�</div>
                          <div>_______________________________________________</div>
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