<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear all,</div><div><br></div><div>The statement I gave is from the board. The questions asked by Russ are more complex to answer now based on the final proposal of ICG and the operator or operators will develop. As I know, some community like to sign contract ASAP. If the contract signed before PTI, then the trademark and domain name can stay with ICANN or other solution which we have to figure the legal and best solution for all. When PTI is established, trademark and domain name can be transferred to PTI or other solution(?). Then the community might transfer to PTI or remains the contract with ICANN which ICANN can not decide alone.</div><div><br></div><div>If there is only one operator, the situation might be easier. If there are multiple operators, it could complex the situation as you all can predict which can not solved by ICANN alone too. We have to sit down to resolve together.</div><div><br></div><div>Russ, I am sorry not giving you "firm" answer to your two questions. But you really raise good questions for all to think about.</div><div><br></div><div>If we have further solution, I will inform you all ASAP.</div><div><br></div><div>Kuo Wu <br><br>\u5f9e\u6211\u7684 iPhone \u50b3\u9001</div><div><br>Alissa Cooper <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>> \u65bc 2015\u5e747\u670821\u65e5 06:37 \u5beb\u9053\uff1a<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252">FYI<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">"Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>[CWG-Stewardship] FW: Request for a quote on two tasks</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">July 21, 2015 at 2:12:51 PM GMT+2<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">"'Jonathan Robinson'" <<a href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a><br></span></div><br><div><div lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">All,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Following on from the Client Committee and CWG meetings on 9 July, the quote below was received. The Client Committee has reviewed this quote and now proposes to instruct Sidley to commence with this work as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Please note that the ICG is moving rapidly towards publication of its work for public comment and, if the CWG is to provide informed and effective input on the \u201cIPR Issue\u201d, we do need Sidley\u2019s input and advice to us as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thank-you,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jonathan & Lise<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Flanagan, Sharon [<a href="mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>18 July 2015 09:33<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">cwg-client@icann.org</a>; Jonathan Robinson; 'Lise Fuhr'; Grace Abuhamad; Marika Konings<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gregory, Holly; Hofheimer, Joshua T.<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: Request for a quote on two tasks<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">With respect to Item #1 below, we would expect the stress test and assessment of the IPR issue under the three scenarios below would require approximately $35,000-40,000 of legal work. This would be for our analysis and review and would not include time spent on follow up calls or iterations of the document.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Please let us know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sharon<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">SHARON</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">FLANAGAN</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>Partner<br><br></span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sidley Austin LLP</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br></span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">+1.415.772.1271<br><a href="mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com" title="Click to send email to Flanagan, Sharon" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">sflanagan@sidley.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Lise Fuhr [<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, July 14, 2015 6:58 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Flanagan, Sharon<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jonathan Robinson; Grace Abuhamad; Marika Konings;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">cwg-client@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Request for a quote on two tasks<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear Sharon,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB">As we talked about during the Client Committee call last Thursday, we have discussed with the CWG Sidley's eventual advice regarding two issues \u2013 IPR and a matrix of the bylaws. The CWG agreed to request Sidley to give an estimate of the hours needed in order to perform the two tasks:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">IPR - To conduct a stress-test approach regarding the IANA IPR issue. This includes four aspects:<br><br>a. Sidley should consult with ICANN Legal in order to obtain further insight and background to the IPR issue. This can be done with the involvement of other members of the CWG \u2013 like the Client Committee. Furthermore CWG is considering involving other communities in this fact-gathering exercise.<br><br>b. There appear to be three possible scenarios. IANA\u2019s IPR either:<br>(i) stays with ICANN; (ii) goes to PTI; or (iii) goes into trust (IETF, mutual trust).<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB">c. What risks exist with each approach from a CWG-Stewardship perspective. These need to be evaluated in view of ICANN's position and the proposal from the other communities to determine what is optimal and/or acceptable.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>d. There are 3 trademarks involved: (i) "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority," (ii) "IANA", and (iii) the IANA Logo, which consists of IANA in stylized letters plus Internet Assigned Numbers Authority.<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-GB"><span>2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-GB">Matrix of the ICANN bylaws:<br><br>Create a matrix to help determine where the bylaws that are needed in relation to the CWG proposal belong. Identify which bylaws Sidley would suggest that the CWG should draft (be in charge of having drafted), and which bylaws drafted by the CCWG need to be signed off by the CWG. There will be a part of the bylaws that are being prepared by the CCWG that have no direct relationship to the CWG's work and these constitute a third category.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB">After receiving the quote, the Client Committee will evaluate the estimates of the two tasks and get back to you.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB">If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to get back to me.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-GB">Lise<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="031db9fc-ed3a-4508-a4a8-419ac434cf70" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang="EN-US">****************************************************************************************************<br>This e-mail is sent by a law firm and may contain information that is privileged or confidential.<br>If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us<br>immediately.<br><br>****************************************************************************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>_______________________________________________<br>CWG-Stewardship mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">CWG-Stewardship@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Internal-cg mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org">Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org">http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>