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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Russ .. I also agree ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Apologies to have misunderstood your proposal .. I thought you were suggesting that ICG seeks SOs and ACs confirmations instead of CWG's ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@syr.edu]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 15, 2015 11:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Russ Housley; Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> internal-cg@ianacg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Internal-cg] Combined proposal assessment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Agree with Russ on this point<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--MM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Internal-cg [<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ Housley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 15, 2015 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Combined proposal assessment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I recognize that this was previously discussed in Buenos Aires. In the hope of getting a stronger demonstration of consensus, I'd like to see if there is a way to get the chartering SOs and ACs to make such a statement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Russ<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Manal Ismail wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Russ for your email ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s a decision that was taken on day 2 of our f2f meeting in BA, attached for your convenience ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--Manal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Russ
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Manal Ismail<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Internal-cg] Combined proposal assessment</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Manal:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been thinking about this part of your assessment:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D">·</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dependency
on CCWG proposal: “</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The CWG-Stewardship proposal is significantly dependent and expressly conditioned on the implementation of ICANN-level accountability mechanisms by the Cross Community
Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability)</span><b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">”. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Worth
noting that it was agreed by the ICG at its meeting in Buenos Aires that once CCWG Workstream1 output<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>issent to SOs/ACs for approval, the ICG will seek confirmation from the CWG that the CCWG's work meets its requirements.
Hence final transition proposal is pending<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>CWG confirmation that<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>CCWG final proposal<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>meets its requirements. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do not think that the ICG should ask CWG-Stewardship whether the CCWG-Accountability result meets its requirements. Instead, it would be much more powerful for the chartering SOs and ACs to state that they have reached consensus on
the CCWG-Accountability result and that they have determined that the CCWG-Accountability result completely meets the requirements set forth in the CWG-Stewardship proposal. Getting this confirmation from the chartering SOs and ACs seems a more powerful demonstration
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