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Colleagues:<br>
<br>
Sorry to be late for the party... I attach my version of the
combined proposal assessment and pasted it below. <br>
<br>
I'll be offline for next hour and a half and be back online later...<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">A.
Compatibility and
interoperability: Do the proposals work together in a single
proposal? Do they
suggest any incompatible arrangements where compatibility
appears to be
required? Is the handling of any conflicting overlaps between
the functions
resolved in a workable manner?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">The
Communities by and large operate
in a coordinated, yet mostly independent manner which is
reflected in the fact
that there are few dependencies or inconsistencies across the
proposals.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>One issue
which has come to light involves
the IANA trademark, its ownership and use.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>IETF and RIRs seem to have a path forward on resolution
though some details
on timing may still need to be worked out. While use of the mark
seems easy to
resolve, its ownership may have further external dependencies.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span>The
Names proposal, as drafted, creates limited potential for
incompatibility based
on possible future actions; it specifically outlines:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoQuote" style="margin-left:.5in">The IETF, through its
responsibilities for developing the underlying DNS protocol and
its extensions,
could designate parts of the domain name space for particular
protocol-related
purposes that may overlap with usages assigned through ICANN
policies. It may
also designate portions of the namespace as invalid, illegal, or
reserved based
on the evolution of the underlying DNS protocol and its
extensions. It may also
expand the scope of namespace to be managed through such changes.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif"">However, while
addressing all required elements, the
names proposal is not a final proposal as it has significant
dependencies on
the external work on ICANN Accountability Mechanisms; most
importantly, the creation
and operation of the PTI. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span>Without
knowing
the final outcome and detail of that proposal and the
finalization of
the names proposal it is impossible to answer this question with
finality at
present.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>If the proposal
remains
unchanged after finalization there should be compatibility
assuming the
trademark issue, highlighted above, is appropriately resolved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">B.
Accountability: Do the proposals
together include appropriate and properly supported independent
accountability
mechanisms for running the IANA function? Are there any gaps in
overall
accountability under the single proposal?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">RIRs and
IETF have long operated
under mostly existing accountability mechanisms which are well
documented and
operationally effective.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The
proposals build
on those accountability functions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">The Names
proposal provides very
detailed elements of accountability that are only proposed, as
opposed to
final, because of their dependency on the CCWG accountability
work, which is
still in process.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>While
the elements
described seem to provide appropriate accountability safeguards,
the external
dependencies make it impossible to conclude on this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">C.
Workability: Do the results of
any tests or evaluations of workability that were included in
the component
proposals conflict with each other or raise possible concerns
when considered
in combination?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">The
proposals as combined create an unwieldy
document that is not easily accessible for the non-initiate.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>That being said, any
attempt to edit the
community consensus proposals into a combined proposal would
require us to
revert to the operational communities and cause significant and
unacceptable delay.
<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span>We may wish to address
this, and why we
have not developed a more streamlined version, in our companion
materials.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">The RIRs
have indicated in their proposal
the ability to change operators as part of overall
accountability.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The
issue was raised as a concern in our
discussion of the proposal (also in direct e-mail exchanges),
that multiple operators
(as the contract seemed to imply the potential for multiple
operators) might
raise a greater potential for friction or fragmentation that was
not fully addressed.
Changing the operator, while a step that should not be taken
lightly, would not
necessarily impact the functionality or stability of operations
where only one
operator was being considered.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Multiple
operators
may likewise be workable, but there was little demonstration
that the
scenarios had been appropriately considered as to issues it
might raise and
possible needed safeguards whether contractual or operational.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I thought this had been
addressed, but some
recent exchanges seemed to have indicated this was still a
possibility? <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span>I raise
this as an issue for consideration. If
collectively we feel that this eventuality would not create
these issues, I
will defer to the greater technical expertise of the group. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">The Names
proposal may well raise
the most issues of workability as it depends on entities and
operational
functions not yet in existence.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>The
proposal does provide some aspects of scenario analysis related
to workability,
but again this is based on the proposal as it exists, which is
not assured.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/14/2015 10:42 AM, Milton L Mueller
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Wouldn't this then mean in consequence that for the contractual
relationship of the SLAs no real alternative is given rather than a subcontract
with the PTI?
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Well, for the short term all 3 OCs have agreed to use the status quo IANA for their part of the functions. It's just that the status quo IANA is becoming PTI. So if you contract with ICANN, yes, you are required to contract with either PTI or to contract with ICANN which will subcontract or assign the contract to PTI.
But in the future, all OCs do have, and should have, "a real alternative" in the sense that they can switch providers according to the procedures set out in their proposals. So when you say there is "no real alternative" I assume you just mean in the initial setup period of the transition.
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