<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div><div>Wolf-Ulrich,</div><div>We are following the assessment of the various proposals and are curious as to what the final impact will be on our current operational structure and the interdependencies of the functions.</div><div><div>-- Elise </div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:21 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>>, Alissa Cooper <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><div><div>Kuo-Wei,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm glad you raising this point. I've already raised my finger several times </div><div>in various meetings - including the CSG meeting with the board in BA - in </div><div>order not to forget the people in the present and future IANA organisation. </div><div>They are the ones who ensure continuous operational excellence which is </div><div>crucial with regards to the security, stability and resiliency of the </div><div>system - one of the basic NTIA requirements.</div><div>Career plan of staff is one element between others.</div><div>I would encourage to outreach at an appropriate time. Maybe Elise as staff </div><div>liaison could gide us.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div><div>Wolf-Ulrich</div><div><br></div><div>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- </div><div>From: Wu Kuo-Wei</div><div>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:45 PM</div><div>To: Alissa Cooper</div><div>Cc: ICG Coordination Group</div><div>Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Thoughts on proposal assessments</div><div><br></div><div>If I may, I like to speak in my personal capacity. If you don’t agree the </div><div>liaison’s position proper to say anything, you can drop my comment.</div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div> Alissa Cooper <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>> \u65bc 2015\u5e747\u67088\u65e5 06:35 \u5beb\u9053\uff1a</div><div><br></div><div> Thank you to everyone who did a names proposal assessment. I wrote down a </div><div> few thoughts in preparation for our discussion on July 8.</div><div><br></div><div> Both Alan and the names folks (Wolf-Ulrich, Mary, Keith, and Martin) point </div><div> out that there are areas where more detail will be developed as part of </div><div> implementation (service levels, IANA budget, PTI budget, etc.). It would </div><div> be helpful for us to have the definitive list of these for our reference. </div><div> Is that list somewhere in the proposal (or supporting material)?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It could be part of implementation. But as name proposal, it try to separate </div><div>the policy and operator to establish PTI. We might need to get some input </div><div>from IANA people who will be moved to PTI as name proposal (as the long term </div><div>stability issue of PTI). It is critical for such design working well for the </div><div>career development for IANA people in the long run. At the current status, </div><div>IANA people can move to other department of ICANN for better career plan, </div><div>and receiving reasonable promotion. We (ICG and ICANN) might need to learn </div><div>IANA people, not just treat them as “box”. We decide their future, but </div><div>ignore their voice. So I will suggest to add this into the list other than </div><div>SLA, budget,..).</div><div><br></div><div>Again, if you don’t agree the liaison position proper to say, please drop my </div><div>comment.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Kuo Wu</div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><br></div><div> Alan, Russ Housley and Russ Mundy point out that the proposal cannot be </div><div> considered complete since it is dependent on outputs from the CCWG. My </div><div> question: does that prevent us in the ICG from moving forward with public </div><div> comment and proposal finalization while we await the output of the CCWG? </div><div> My personal view is that it does not but I wanted to check.</div><div><br></div><div> Russ Mundy raises a good question about the Root Zone Maintainer’s </div><div> relationship to the IFO and I look forward to our discussion of that. I </div><div> note that the SSAC made a similar comment to the CWG in its approval of </div><div> the proposal. Again I don’t think this is necessarily blocking on our </div><div> work, but it might be a detail where we need to seek clarification.</div><div><br></div><div> Alissa</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> _______________________________________________</div><div> Internal-cg mailing list</div><div> <a href="mailto:Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org">Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org</a></div><div> <a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org">http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org</a></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Internal-cg mailing list</div><div><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org">Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org</a></div><div><a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org">http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org</a> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Internal-cg mailing list</div><div><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org">Internal-cg@mm.ianacg.org</a></div><div><a href="http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org">http://mm.ianacg.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg_ianacg.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></span></body></html>