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Colleagues:<br>
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I thought we had agreed on the call that a second consultation would
be addressed as a possibility in the descriptive text and not
specifically addressed in the time line as it was hard to predict
details about the second consultation until we knew the scope and
nature of the possible changes.<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/8/2015 2:07 PM, Kavouss Arasteh
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<div>Alissa,</div>
<div>I fully support Martin in saying thathe has one very
significant concern - the chart shows only one consultation.
and further saying that heis not convinced that that is
enough, nor that it is reasonable to reduce the number of
consultation periods. (And this is a point he and many
others like me made a number of times now. No one has said
we were wrong,I confirmed his views that the second comment
period never makes it back into the timeline.) We might be
lucky and little comes out of the comments period that leads
to significant new material or re-thinking. </div>
<div>I understand some people like ...... do not want even
having one consultation and were of the view that every thing
is perfect and we have to make transition even yesterday..</div>
<div>Unfortunately I do not share that views.</div>
<div>For me as a member of ICG and Internet Community the second
commenting period is ABOLUTELY NECESSAR AND CRUVCIAL.</div>
<div>Please carefully consider the activities of the CWG in
which as results of the two consulatations they are better
covered.</div>
<div>Once again DO RUSH.</div>
<div>be prudent and patient</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Kavouss </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-06-08 19:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Boyle
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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sort of missed this discussion...<br>
<br>
I agree with Paul that we do need to be realistic about
timescales - ours and the operational communities'. This
draft does not.<br>
<br>
In particular, as we go into the drafting phase, we probably
need to think about resources. (The team supporting the
CWG-Names Functions is large, supporting the very high
number of conference calls and drafting. I don't think that
we will be quite this intense, but we need to think
carefully about what we need to produce and how we will do
it.)<br>
<br>
However, I have one very significant concern - the chart
shows only one consultation. I am not convinced that that
is enough, nor that it is reasonable to reduce the number of
consultation periods. (And this is a point I have made a
number of times now. No one has said I'm wrong, but the
second comment period never makes it back into the
timeline.) We might be lucky and little comes out of the
comments period that leads to significant new material or
re-thinking. As a pessimist at heart, I'd love to be
pleasantly surprised.<br>
<br>
That doesn't mean that we have nothing in Dublin. But it
does mean that we could be using a re-draft for discussions
and an opportunity to do any fine tuning with the OCs.<br>
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Martin<br>
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Sent: 27 May 2015 05:54<br>
To: Alissa Cooper<br>
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Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Our timeline<br>
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Alissa, this looks like progress to me. Just one
question below.<br>
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On 22 May 2015, at 7:37, Alissa Cooper wrote:<br>
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> One item we did not discuss on the last call was
our own ICG timeline<br>
> for finalizing the proposal. We have discussed this
at various times<br>
> but I dont think we have firmly settled on how
much time we plan to<br>
> allocate for the time after we receive the CWG
proposal and before we<br>
> submit the final combined proposal to the ICANN
Board for transmission<br>
> to NTIA. We need not nail this down precisely, but
we do need to have<br>
> an estimate that we can factor into our response to
the letter from<br>
> NTIA.<br>
><br>
> I have re-attached to this email the latest
timeline graphic, which is<br>
> also in Dropbox. It includes the following
approximate allocations:<br>
><br>
> *2 weeks for us to assess the CWG proposal on its
own<br>
> *3 weeks for us to assess all three proposals
together and for the<br>
> communities to make edits if necessary<br>
<br>
Im not sure how the communities would make edits
during this short period, or for what reason. I suppose
this is suggested in case of conflicts identified, where
the ICG may need to request clarifications or
modifications from the communities? If so, then Im not
sure it is an editing process; it may be better
described as a process of consultation between the IGC
and community representatives, to identify solutions
which would be included into the ICGs plan, and subject
to comment in the next step.<br>
<br>
Also I think this step is not just one of assessing the
proposals, but it is in fact the assembly of the single
ICG proposal, from those components.<br>
<br>
I would restate this step as follows:<br>
<br>
*3 weeks for us to assemble all three proposals together
into a single plan, in consultation with communities if
necessary regarding any interactions or conflicts<br>
<br>
Paul.<br>
<br>
<br>
> *4-5 weeks for public comment (realizing that if
the public comment<br>
> period lands in August, we may want to use 5 weeks
to accommodate<br>
> summer holidays)<br>
> *3 weeks for us to assess the public comments,
which overlaps with <br>
> *2 weeks for the communities to make edits if
necessary<br>
> *2 weeks to prepare the final proposal<br>
><br>
> The total ends up being about 4 months.<br>
><br>
> I think this is an aggressive yet doable timeline.
At any step of the<br>
> process we could get hung up (e.g., if our
assessment(s) take longer,<br>
> if the communities need more time, if the public
comments received are<br>
> contradictory, etc.), but I think we can assume 4
months as an<br>
> estimate and explain the contingencies when we
respond to NTIA. Four<br>
> months is also approximately the amount of time
between ICANN<br>
> meetings, so if we receive the CWG proposal at or
around the Buenos<br>
> Aires meeting we can aim to finish at the Dublin
meeting.<br>
><br>
> Id like to have some discussion of this on the
list and then use our<br>
> May 27 call to continue the discussion.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Alissa<br>
><br>
><br>
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