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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear All ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I was not against issuing a statement at the beginning, but after reading Bruce's email, shared by Alissa, I believe it already responds to many of the points
we want to make .. So if we are still to issue a statement, I believe it should be a bit different and somehow acknowledge the positive response provided (after seeking clarification on any unclear points of course) .. At the end, I would go by the group's
decision but allow me to explain further my point ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The statement already confirms that the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Board supports the community processes<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>ICANN also recognizes and accepts that the community will want to have fall back mechanisms
<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Board also supports the need for the ICG to coordinate the various transition proposals, and awaits the outcome of that process<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Board will consider the recent reports from the CWG and CCWG that are open for public comment, and will raise any concerns it has in writing<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Unclear points
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Whether the statement is made only on behalf of the Board or includes ICANN staff as well is still unclear; as rightly pointed
out by Keith, Patrik and others .. It's interesting that the statement refers once to ICANN rather than ICANN Board .. I'm not sure whether this is intended or not .. But in all cases, we should explicitly ask the question and I believe Keith has already posed
this question on the CCWG-ACCT mailing list ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On Patrik's point "</span> it also only talk about the by ICANN run processes (i.e. the CWG and CCWG, and not the other OCs
for numbers and protocols)<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">" .. Frankly I did not have the same impression, the first para refers to "</span> community processes that have been used to develop proposals for the
IANA transition and ICANN's accountability<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> " which I thought would normally cover all OC processes including protocols and numbers .. the second para refers to "</span> the various
transition proposals,<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">" which again I thought to include proposals submitted by protocols and numbers .. the 3<sup>rd
</sup>para refers only to "</span> recent reports from the CWG and CCWG <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
", which I read as referencing the drafts currently open for public comment .. But again I see no harm from explicitly posing this question ..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have the feeling that posting the statement as initially discussed:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">May bring us again the same response already submitted by Broad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We may not receive the required clarification on the above 2 unclear points<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And may sound as if we were not informed about the Board's response<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So my suggestion is to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seek explicit clarification on the above 2 points and others, if any .. This could be done over email, through Broad liaison
or any other appropriate means <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Issue a statement that would re-iterate our principles and acknowledge the Board's confirmation on: \u2026.. a list of what has
been confirmed (hopefully all issues) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Apologies for the long email and for not being so helpful in moving things forward but the Board's response has just been issued and circulated ..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Happy to discuss further and equally happy to go by the group's decision should it end to be different ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--Manal
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Internal-cg [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mohamed El Bashir<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Drazek, Keith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ICG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Further comment on concerns that ICANN will reject community developed proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">+ Keith, we still need to issue our statement .<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mohamed <o:p></o:p></p>
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On 7 May 2015, at 07:21, Drazek, Keith <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Narelle, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In my view, it does not obviate the need for our statement. If the message included references to the ICANN Board AND the ICANN staff, then perhaps. But it doesn't.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
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On May 6, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Narelle Clark <<a href="mailto:narelle.clark@accan.org.au">narelle.clark@accan.org.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Doesn\u2019t this message obviate the need for any statement from us?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ie doesn\u2019t it answer the question that we\u2019re posing about concerns ICANN has?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Narelle</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Internal-cg [<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alissa Cooper<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 7 May 2015 10:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ICG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Internal-cg] Fwd: [CCWG-ACCT] Further comment on concerns that ICANN will reject community developed proposals</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FYI<o:p></o:p></p>
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Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>From:</b> Bruce Tonkin <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> May 6, 2015 at 3:19:59 PM PDT<br>
<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>[CCWG-ACCT] Further comment on concerns that ICANN will reject community developed proposals</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello All,<br>
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Regarding the following statement posted in numerous lists:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"ICANN has verbally represented that they will reject any proposed agreement in which ICANN is not deemed the sole source prime contractor for the IANA functions in perpetuity."<o:p></o:p></p>
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The ICANN Board supports the community processes that have been used to develop proposals for the IANA transition and ICANN's accountability. ICANN also recognizes and accepts that the community will want to have fall back mechanisms in place should the
IANA functions operator not perform its function to the standards required by the community. An important part of any system that focusses on security and stability is to document processes for handling any failures of the system.<br>
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The Board also supports the need for the ICG to coordinate the various transition proposals, and awaits the outcome of that process.<br>
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The Board will consider the recent reports from the CWG and CCWG that are open for public comment, and will raise any concerns it has in writing. We urge other community members to focus on the documents produced by the cross-community working groups, and
provide feedback to the cross-community working groups through the public comment process.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Bruce Tonkin<br>
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Board Liaison to the CCWG on Accountability<br>
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