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Colleagues:<br>
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I think we are somewhat talking past each other.<br>
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We assemble the final proposal and do not draft the proposal parts.
If a proposal specific comment comes to us we have one action and 3
choices:<br>
<br>
- The common action is to read what has been sent to us through some
mechanism. Not each person would need to read all messages or we
may get them in digest form rather than real time or we may have a
designated process of who reads what. Para one of the text suggests
that receipt of the comment be acknowledged. That should not be
very troubling.<br>
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Choices:<br>
<br>
a. We decide that the comment we received is worthy of our own
follow up and it inspires us to ask the same or related question(s)
to the proposal drafters. This we have the ability to do at all
times.<br>
b. As the comment goes to a proposal as opposed to our process or
the joint proposal, we are not in a position to properly answer the
question. As such we could forward the question to the correct
community, on the chance that the asker of the question may not have
also addressed the community.<br>
c. Since we are working transparently, I assume all of the
questions we receive will be available online. If a community
commits to keeping watch for relevant comments then we don't have to
worry about forwarding comments.<br>
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Options b and c in no way limit our rights and abilities under a. b
and c are merely concepts that assure the greatest transparency and
assurance that comments are routed to those groups best able to
address them. It takes a no wrong door approach to comments and
helps assure that those not familiar with the consultation process
are also able to get their questions heard.<br>
<br>
best-<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/2015 4:59 PM, Milton L Mueller
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>If the objection is to this:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ICG secretariat will acknowledge receipt
through an automated receipt message that includes the steps
ICG will follow to handle community comments directly
submitted to its forum.<span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I really dont see why there should
be any controversy from either side. It would be easy to
just forward the comments, but even if the OC completely
ignores the comments it gets or the ICG Forum, the ICG has
the authority to agree to send questions to them based on
its own reading of the comments.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>So I dont disagree with Kavouss, I
dont understand why we would not forward the comments, but
it doesnt really matter in my view.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>--MM</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
Internal-cg [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alissa Cooper<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: Consensus call:
Community comments handling</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Kavouss, your position is noted.
Unless there are other objections that surface, I think we
may have consensus with your position in the rough.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alissa</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 15, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Alissa
Cooper <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From: </span>
</b><span>Kavouss Arasteh <<a
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href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Subject: Re:
[Internal-cg] Consensus call: Community
comments handling</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Date: </span>
</b><span>April 15, 2015 at 12:24:40 PM PDT</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>To: </span>
</b><span>Alissa Cooper <<a
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href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Alissa,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank you very much
for the message.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I hope you are well
and the baby also is well and does not cry
frequently allows you to have some rest
and deal with ICG which is is silent mode
for mabny weeks.$</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Comibng back to
works</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I strongly object
to give such options to OC .</span></p>
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<span><span>1.<span>
</span></span></span><b><span>Acknowledge
ICG Secretariat to Sender:</span></b><span></span></p>
<p>
<span>ICG secretariat will acknowledge
receipt through an automated receipt
message that includes the steps ICG will
follow to handle community comments
directly submitted to its forum.</span></p>
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<span><span>1.<span>
</span></span></span><b><span>Forward
ICG to Operational Communities:Delete
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<span>ICG secretariat( replace the verb
will with) should forward comments
received to the relevant OC, ADD ( if so
decideD by ICG, see below ,, to be
handled as if they were raised inside
their process and inform the sender
accordingly. ADD ( and copied to ICG) </span></p>
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<b><u><span>ICG Internal Process:</span></u></b><span></span></p>
<p>
<span>As part of its ongoing proposal
assessment process, the ICG will decide
whether to direct any questions to the
relevant operational community as a result
of comments received and will consider
responses received from the community
during the assessment process.</span></p>
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<span><span>1.<span>
</span></span></span><b><span>Alert
ICG Secretariat to ICG:</span></b><span></span></p>
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<span>ICG secretariat will alert the ICG of
any comments or input received on the
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum/">ICG
Forum</a>. </span></p>
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<span><span>1.<span>
</span></span></span><b><span>Review
ICG Review Comments:</span></b><span></span></p>
<p>
<span>The ICG will review the comments
received and may follow up with its own
question(s) to the relevant OC, if the ICG
deems necessary.
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<span><span>1.<span>
</span></span></span><b><span>Update
ICG Secretariat to ICG:</span></b><span></span></p>
<p>
<span>On periodic basis, ICG secretariat
will create a summary digest of comments
received. The ICG requests that OCs, to
whom the comments have been addressed,
post any summary updates related to their
responses or how they have dealt with the
comments in general as they find
appropriate.</span></p>
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<span>Reasons</span></p>
<p>
<span>All decision should remain with ICG as
responsible group for this process.OC is
advised by ICG and not self selecting
whether or not to react</span></p>
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<span>Regards</span></p>
<p>
<span>Kavouss </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2015-04-15 20:39
GMT+02:00 Alissa Cooper <<a
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href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in"
target="_blank">alissa@cooperw.in</a>>:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All,<br>
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We have had many rounds of discussion on
the attached document <<a
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href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3vghlrn32ge8p4/Community%20Comments%20Handling%20-%2013Feb15.docx?dl=0"
target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3vghlrn32ge8p4/Community%20Comments%20Handling%20-%2013Feb15.docx?dl=0</a>>
concerning community comments handling and
I think we have consensus to publish it.
Many thanks to Manal, Lynn, and everyone
who worked on this. If there are any
outstanding objections to publishing it,
please send them to the list by April 20
at 20:00 UTC.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Alissa<br>
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