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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Milton,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Noted- the Secretariat will remove references to continued discussion as an ‘action item’ going forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@syr.edu] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jennifer Chung'; 'internal-cg@ianacg.org'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: ICG Call#13 Action item 3 [was RE: [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals]<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>OK, thanks. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In the future, I would suggest that we not classify “let’s continue discussion of <something> on the list as an “action item.” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--MM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jennifer Chung [<a href="mailto:jen@icgsec.asia">mailto:jen@icgsec.asia</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller; <a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> ICG Call#13 Action item 3 [was RE: [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals]<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Milton,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Call 13, Action Item 3 stems from the discussion from pg 2-3 of the 11 Mar minutes v3, attached and reproduced below in full:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Arasteh reiterated his request to clarify the jurisdiction issue regarding the current IETF-ICANN MoU. He further requested clarification on the management of the coordination of the three operational communities as referenced in the protocol parameters proposal (<a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09">pg 13, section IV</a>).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:1.0in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Regarding Arasteh’s first point, Arkko stated that it was his recollection that the jurisdiction issue was resolved during the face-to-face meeting, and that it was clarified by Arkko and Housley that IAB is the final arbiter for any issues between ICANN and IETF. Arkko stated that the ICG agreed (and have sent) a question to the operational communities relating to the IPR (domain names and trademarks of iana.org).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:1.0in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Regarding Arasteh’s second point, Arkko stated that coordination between the three communities in the IETF process is described in various RFCs and has been a point-to-point coordination between the communities that has occurred many times without issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:1.5in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Arasteh requested that Arkko put the above explanation in writing for clarification and discussion. Arasteh further emphasized that the jurisdiction issue is a legal issue that should be properly addressed, and the current answer of ‘IAB’ is insufficient in his view.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:1.5in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Arkko stated that the IETF community has produced a proposal that explains the IETF process, including accountability mechanisms, and that the community’s opinion is clearly reflected in the document. Arkko offered to provide further information in an email to the internal-cg mailing list regarding practicalities of coordination between the operational communities (referred to in the protocol parameters proposal), but emphasized that he cannot change the protocol parameters’ proposal itself.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:2.0in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><i>Adobe Connect chat:</i> Mundy and Housley agreed with Arkko regarding his view that the ICG members cannot change the community proposal.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>El Bashir suggested that the ICG continue discussion of this matter on the internal-cg mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Action Item 3: <span style='color:black'>The ICG to continue discussing on the internal cg-mailing list about: 1) jurisdiction issue of the current ICANN-IETF MoU; 2) the practicalities of coordination between the operational communities (referred to in the protocol parameters proposal and referenced RFCs).</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please let me know if you have questions or need further clarifications re the above.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Milton L Mueller [<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mailto:mueller@syr.edu</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jennifer Chung; <a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This summary is good, I wrote my last message before I had seen this attachment with the summary of arguments. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>However, while this is excellent summary fulfills action item 2 from ICG call #12, I still am not sure what the action item #3 from call #13 is. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--MM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Internal-cg [<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jennifer Chung<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As requested by Jean-Jacques on the recently concluded call regarding this action item:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>ICG Call #12, Action Item 2: ICG to discuss and call for volunteer/pen holder on the internal-cg mailing list to consolidate information collected during the assessment process of the operational communities' proposals in an ICG report that can be published together with the final proposal<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Please find attached the chart consolidating questions and answers discussed during the assessment process for the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dropbox link: <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/wad3entgv3dqr3m/Summary%20of%20internally%20resolved%20questions-v2.xlsx?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/wad3entgv3dqr3m/Summary%20of%20internally%20resolved%20questions-v2.xlsx?dl=0</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>